Has anyone, other than you three stooges?
You always seek to expose sectarianism on my part.
But in calling Christian brothers "stooges" you are being very sectarian.
As a Christian, one can be loving of unbelievers without feeling he has to resort to calling his brothers in Christ "stooges".
We know that we have passed from death to life because we love the brothers. (1 John 3:14)
If you feel closer kinship with atheists while fellow Christians are "stooges" this may indicates you have not yet passed from death to life.
The exhortation to the Thessalonians is to live so as to not by mistake END UP in a situation that God has not appointed for them.
God has appointed the church to be found watching and ready to be taken whenever He would appear. Since only a remnant thoughout the ages take serious heed to watchfulness, a remnant will not be found where they were not appointed -in a world under God's judgment.
But the majority who are left behind will find themselves on an earth that God has not appointed for them, one not only under the Devil's anger but under God's wrath as well.
I don't believe God is ever angry with his children, and He doesn't "punish" them either.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Clearly stated. When God pours out His wrath during the "great tribulation", whether believers are on the earth or not, God's wrath, in all it's forms, will never touch a believer.
Jesus bore the wrath of God on Himself on the cross that was meant for us.
@secondson saidDoes this apply to sonship's "medical doctor" on the other thread if the doctor is a believer?
Clearly stated. When God pours out His wrath during the "great tribulation", whether believers are on the earth or not, God's wrath, in all it's forms, will never touch a believer.Jesus bore the wrath of God on Himself on the cross that was meant for us.
I don't believe God is ever angry with his children, and He doesn't "punish" them either.
I agree that it says the Spirit within us may be grieved. It doesn't say the Spirit in us is angry.
But my only point is that for a large portion of the Christians on earth to pass through the three and one half years of the great tribulation will happen. And that is a time when God's wrath is poured out on the earth.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Clearly stated. When God pours out His wrath during the "great tribulation", whether believers are on the earth or not, God's wrath, in all it's forms, will never touch a believer.
Better to be kept out of the hour of the trial as God tells the church in Philadelphia. (Rev. 3:10)
Jesus bore the wrath of God on Himself on the cross that was meant for us.
Yes.
@secondson saidIf I were to say to someone "you're channeling Rajk" it would be a compliment. Rajk999 is principled, tenacious, both coherent & consistent, immune to deflection (thick-skinned), and he doesn't suffer fools gladly. He brings value to this forum. He is missed.
As FMF would say, you're channeling Rajk.
If I were to say to someone "you're channeling Rajk" it would be a compliment. Rajk999 is principled, tenacious, both coherent & consistent, immune to deflection (thick-skinned), and he doesn't suffer fools gladly. He brings value to this forum. He is missed.
If sheer flattery could bring him back, surely yours would have done so by now.
Reminds me of when I was in my golden good ole days of FMF's approval.