1. Subscribersonhouse
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    10 Aug '05 18:59
    That's my opinion in a nutshell. Those two religions have been
    the cause of more death and misery, holding back the progress
    of the human race for two thousand years. The rank and file
    have nothing to do with it, its the thrice damned leaders who would
    never in a million years actually participate in a war themselves
    but convince weak minded souls to kill, rape, pillage and expand
    their empire of hate. They are no more about real spirituality
    than the man in the moon. The leaders of these so-called religions
    are after power over people and most especially after power over
    women, whom they disparage as the weakness in the earth.
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    10 Aug '05 22:52
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    That's my opinion in a nutshell. Those two religions have been
    the cause of more death and misery, holding back the progress
    of the human race for two thousand years. The rank and file
    have nothing to do with it, its the thrice damned leaders who would
    never in a million years actually participate in a war themselves
    but convince weak minded souls to ...[text shortened]... e and most especially after power over
    women, whom they disparage as the weakness in the earth.

    ...and your nutshelled-option to salvage mankind would be.... to convert everyone to Judaism?
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    10 Aug '05 22:58
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    That's my opinion in a nutshell. Those two religions have been
    the cause of more death and misery, holding back the progress
    of the human race for two thousand years. The rank and file
    have nothing to do with it, its the thrice damned leaders who would
    never in a million years actually participate in a war themselves
    but convince weak minded souls to ...[text shortened]... e and most especially after power over
    women, whom they disparage as the weakness in the earth.

    John 10:10
    10 "The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
    (NKJ)

    There is the problem...the thief is satan.
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    10 Aug '05 23:22
    Originally posted by Peachy

    ...and your nutshelled-option to salvage mankind would be.... to convert everyone to Judaism?
    Looking at Isreal, that could make things much worse...

    Anyways, personally, I think religion was just a way in the past of inticing people to obey the law. Think of it, 2000 years ago, there were no forensics, science didn't exist that well, to convict someone of a crime, you depended completely on witnesses, so the idea of "thou shall not kill", "thou shall not steal", "thou shall no bear false witness", or you go to hell, was a means leaders used 2000 years ago to control the populace as law abiding citazens, it's nothing more then a fantasy of fear to obey the law, at a time evidence was hard to get. Honestly, I don't think we need religion anymore, although religious like plots make good fantasy books and RPG games...
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    11 Aug '05 00:24
    Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowed
    Looking at Isreal, that could make things much worse...

    Anyways, personally, I think religion was just a way in the past of inticing people to obey the law. Think of it, 2000 years ago, there were no forensics, science didn't exist that well, to convict someone of a crime, you depended completely on witnesses, so the idea of "thou shall not kill ...[text shortened]... we need religion anymore, although religious like plots make good fantasy books and RPG games...
    Also at that time, there was no such thing as jail time, prisons were
    unheard of. Dungeons were to keep people temporarily because
    they were to be put to death, usually in unspeakably painful ways
    like lions in the arena or made to fight a professional soldier and you
    are just a farmer, he toys with you cutting off a hand first, etc.
    Yet here we are two thousand years later with the leftover dogma
    that is Islam and Christianity. The problem is, and people don't seem
    to understand the severity of this problem, There are laws supposedly
    from god that directly contradict one another. In some parts of africa
    its ok to mutilate the clitoris of your wife to be so she will feel no
    sexual pleasure, The Jews don't eat pigs and milk together, from god.
    The Muslims don't eat FISH and milk together, etc., etc., ad nauseum.
    They can't all be right, god would not say to one people you NEED to
    kill if they don't believe, and the other Thou shalt not kill. I wish
    people would take that extremely seriously and look VERY close at
    what that means. It means they can't both be coming from god
    so the extremely most likely path here is NEITHER story in fact came
    from any god, just men setting up situations which makes them
    a power base and a means to control men but more importantly,
    a means to subjugate women. There was a time say, ten thousand
    years ago or more, when women ruled the roost, then the
    barbarian hords came down into the island nations and turned that
    all upside down into a male god dominated society which it has
    been ever since in just about every country on earth. Not that I am
    especially for or against female dominated societies but these
    so-called religions were specifically designed in part to subjugate
    woman and cause death and destruction wherever they raised their
    ugly heads, based on the self evident superiority of THEIR particular
    form of their particular religion.
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    11 Aug '05 01:01
    As I said, religion was just stuff drawn up by politicians 2000-1000 years ago trying to model their country/society, as they see fit. That's why each religion is different, and with different branches. Religion is nothing but a political device, and like all politicians, they were corrupt.
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    11 Aug '05 10:12
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    That's my opinion in a nutshell. Those two religions have been
    the cause of more death and misery, holding back the progress
    of the human race for two thousand years. The rank and file
    have nothing to do with it, its the thrice damned leaders who would
    never in a million years actually participate in a war themselves
    but convince weak minded souls to ...[text shortened]... e and most especially after power over
    women, whom they disparage as the weakness in the earth.
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Those two religions have been the cause of more death and misery, holding back the progress of the human race for two thousand years.

    What about the Nazis? The A-bomb?

    On the flip side, where would science be today without Islam?
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    11 Aug '05 13:37
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    That's my opinion in a nutshell. Those two religions have been
    the cause of more death and misery, holding back the progress
    of the human race for two thousand years. The rank and file
    have nothing to do with it, its the thrice damned leaders who would
    never in a million years actually participate in a war themselves
    but convince weak minded souls to ...[text shortened]... e and most especially after power over
    women, whom they disparage as the weakness in the earth.
    I'd say you owe a lot to your Christian heritage.
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    11 Aug '05 16:47
    The best suicide bombers in the world are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka. Marxist Hindus, basically. So what's THEIR problem?
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    11 Aug '05 19:59
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    That's my opinion in a nutshell. Those two religions have been
    the cause of more death and misery, holding back the progress
    of the human race for two thousand years. The rank and file
    have nothing to do with it, its the thrice damned leaders who would
    never in a million years actually participate in a war themselves
    but convince weak minded souls to ...[text shortened]... e and most especially after power over
    women, whom they disparage as the weakness in the earth.
    If people are too weak-minded to see through the lies of their leaders, then they deserve the fate they get. Where is the accountability for the individual to think for him/herself?
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    11 Aug '05 20:55
    Originally posted by orfeo
    The best suicide bombers in the world are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka. Marxist Hindus, basically. So what's THEIR problem?
    You forget - some of the Sinhalese fighters/bombers are Buddhists.
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    11 Aug '05 23:301 edit
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    You forget - some of the Sinhalese fighters/bombers are Buddhists.
    The Sinhalese are Buddhists. The Sinhalese are in opposition to the Tamils. It's the Tamils that have an 'outstanding' record as suicide bombers.

    But yes, there aren't a whole lot of Christians or Muslims on either side of that conflict.
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