1. SubscriberSuzianne
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    15 Dec '15 08:591 edit
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    We only send our craziest people to Debates. The rest have better things to do with their time. 😛
    So then is the Debates Forum a forum "of peace"? 🙂
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    15 Dec '15 09:021 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Which is why guessing what I'm thinking and feeling, as opposed to dealing with what I
    say, is so misguided.

    People are constantly guessing at what I think and feel behind my words, and they are almost
    always wrong.

    You would think people would learn from this unmitigated failure and stop guessing.
    Then perhaps you could make it more clear, so that the guessing stops.

    "Dealing with what you say" doesn't exactly tell us how you're thinking or feeling, either.

    You say something mean, you're going to be judged as mean. You say something insulting, you're going to be judged as insulting. You say something biased, you're going to be judged as biased. That's just the way it works.
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    15 Dec '15 09:07
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Christianity is a religion of ... life. Islam is a religion of ... death.
    Every time I start thinking that some stupid thing you've said IS the "most stupid thing you've ever said", you come up with something even more stupid. The goalposts are being constantly moved back.

    If a racist is someone who hates people of a certain race, then what is the term for someone who hates people of a certain religion, just for being members of that religion? Somebody help me out here. Yeah, there's "bigot", but that's too general for what I'm looking for here.
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    15 Dec '15 10:35
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Then perhaps you could make it more clear, so that the guessing stops.

    "Dealing with what you say" doesn't exactly tell us how you're thinking or feeling, either.

    You say something mean, you're going to be judged as mean. You say something insulting, you're going to be judged as insulting. You say something biased, you're going to be judged as biased. That's just the way it works.
    OK we get it.
    You are mean, insulting and biased.
    We already knew that!
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    15 Dec '15 11:07
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Every time I start thinking that some stupid thing you've said IS the "most stupid thing you've ever said", you come up with something even more stupid. The goalposts are being constantly moved back.

    If a racist is someone who hates people of a certain race, then what is the term for someone who hates people of a certain religion, just for being members ...[text shortened]... help me out here. Yeah, there's "bigot", but that's too general for what I'm looking for here.
    Are you saying i am like my hero Donald Trump? 😏
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    15 Dec '15 13:35
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Are you saying i am like my hero Donald Trump? 😏
    I wouldn't be smiling about it if I were you, which thankfully, VERY thankfully, I am not.

    Your buddy Trump is a narcissistic sociopath.
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    15 Dec '15 21:49
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Then perhaps you could make it more clear, so that the guessing stops.

    "Dealing with what you say" doesn't exactly tell us how you're thinking or feeling, either.

    You say something mean, you're going to be judged as mean. You say something insulting, you're going to be judged as insulting. You say something biased, you're going to be judged as biased. That's just the way it works.
    Then perhaps you could make it more clear, so that the guessing stops.


    So every time I make an argument or post it should come with a running commentary on
    how I'm feeling as I write it?

    Do you realise how stupid your hating my guts makes your posts?

    I get it, you don't like me... But try stopping to think before dumping on my posts, for your sake.

    "Dealing with what you say" doesn't exactly tell us how you're thinking or feeling, either.


    Who cares what I'm feeling? it's not relevant to the discussion.

    I wasn't the one who brought up intentions, it was the person I criticised for inventing what
    I was feeling at the time who brought it up. I am the one saying leave feelings out of it, partly because
    you guys ALWAYS read me wrong, so stop bothering. Because it makes you look stupid.

    You say something mean, you're going to be judged as mean. You say something insulting, you're going to be judged as insulting. You say something biased, you're going to be judged as biased. That's just the way it works.


    Yeah, because tone is really easy to detect in forum posts... people never ever get that wrong...
    🙄

    How about when I post an argument that has nothing whatsoever to do with my feelings and people
    then try to infer from that how I'm feeling.

    What does that make THEM? [or you, in this case]
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    16 Dec '15 06:46
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I wouldn't be smiling about it if I were you, which thankfully, VERY thankfully, I am not.

    Your buddy Trump is a narcissistic sociopath.
    Yeah but he got people talking about some important subjects.
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    16 Dec '15 06:51
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Then perhaps you could make it more clear, so that the guessing stops.


    So every time I make an argument or post it should come with a running commentary on
    how I'm feeling as I write it?

    Do you realise how stupid your hating my guts makes your posts?

    I get it, you don't like me... But try stopping to think before dumping on my p ...[text shortened]... then try to infer from that how I'm feeling.

    What does that make THEM? [or you, in this case]
    It is not that she does not like either of us. She just disagrees with us in different ways and believes attacking us is the best way to deal with her anger against what we say. I don't believe she really means us any harm. 😏
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    That would be a bad business deal. 😏
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    17 Dec '15 11:59
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Are you saying i am like my hero Donald Trump? 😏
    Precisely.
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    17 Dec '15 21:143 edits
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I have recently seen statements or debates along the lines of:
    Islam is a religion of peace (or not).
    What does it mean to say something about a religion, when it is well known that the adherent of any large religion have a wide diversity of beliefs or views.
    Can anything be said about Christianity in the format: Christianity is a religion of ...?
    Wou ...[text shortened]... u be talking about/for all Christians when you made the statement? The majority? Your own group?
    Essentially you have all of these various Islamic terrorists groups going around raping and plundering and killing in the name of Allah, much like Mohammad did.

    However, there are about a billion Muslims on the earth and most are not engaged in this sort of behavior. So instead of condemning the whole religion, and specifically Mohammad which would just start more killing, they say that they are really a religion of peace.

    No one really believes it but the hope is that they keep more jihadists at home by trying to play nice.
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