From another current thread...
Church leaders need to be focusing on the rights being taken away and preparing and teaching those their responsible for of the present dangers and what ACTION needs to be taken. When you do nothing a problem gets larger and harder to deal with. As Christians get pushed into a corner more and more new leaders will emerge that fit the times we live in.
Presumably, this is the lament and exhortation of an American who self-identifies as a Christian.
[1] What rights are being taken away?
[2] What is the problem that's getting "larger and harder to deal with"? What are the "present dangers"?
[3] What would "dealing with it" entail? i.e. "...what ACTION needs to be taken?"
[4] What are some examples of "Christians getting pushed into a corner more and more"?
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@FMF
Feel free to go to that thread.
Hi Friend,
This was actually a weak indirect response out of frustration to the original person who had started that thread. He had asked this person for their opinion for what I felt were insincere reasons by his response and his lack of interest in the issues mentioned in that thread to be professing such a high level of Christianity.
@mike69 saidNo, thank you, that's alright.
@FMF
Feel free to go to that thread.
Here are the questions on this new thread.
[1] What rights are being taken away?
[2] What is the problem that's getting "larger and harder to deal with"? What are the "present dangers"?
[3] What would "dealing with it" entail? i.e. "...what ACTION needs to be taken?"
[4] What are some examples of "Christians getting pushed into a corner more and more"?
Feel free to offer "weak indirect responses out of frustration"; an interesting discussion might grow from it, nevertheless.
@mike69 saidDo you have "insincere reasons" for posting what you did by way of your response? Do you have a "lack of interest in the issues [you youself] mentioned"?
He had asked this person for their opinion for what I felt were insincere reasons by his response and his lack of interest in the issues mentioned in that thread to be professing such a high level of Christianity.
You ought to be careful if you don't want people to think you are a sanctimonious coward. For me, the jury is still out. Do you have any sincere interest in the stuff that you posted?
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Looking forward to that picture buddy don’t forget me!
Is it ok if I call you bozo since I don’t know your name.
You want to know something funny Bozo? When I read what I wrote I didn’t like the way it sounded either still don’t. Anyway I changed some except towards the end because I thought about it and left it because I knew Simple Simon would try and start trouble.
You know Simon the only problem I have with you is your a bully and put people down and you seem to have more anger towards God than trying to maybe understand one another. Do you like the feeling? Maybe Gods workings can help you to understand something. It only takes a seed for now maybe it will grow later.
@mike69 saidIt is you, and not me, who appears to be "angry". So, just to be clear you are intent on distancing yourself ~ but not in a gracious way ~ from your own words, just a few hours after you typed them?
Looking forward to that picture buddy don’t forget me!
Is it ok if I call you bozo since I don’t know your name.
You want to know something funny Bozo? When I read what I wrote I didn’t like the way it sounded either still don’t. Anyway I changed some except towards the end because I thought about it and left it because I knew Simple Simon would try and start trouble. ...[text shortened]... rkings can help you to understand something. It only takes a seed for now maybe it will grow later.
@fmf saidI am not the OP, but it is really a reasonable quotation.
From another current thread...
[b]Church leaders need to be focusing on the rights being taken away and preparing and teaching those their responsible for of the present dangers and what ACTION needs to be taken. When you do nothing a problem gets larger and harder to deal with. As Christians get pushed into a corner more and more new leaders will emerge that fit the times we ...[text shortened]... be taken?"
[4] What are some examples of "Christians getting pushed into a corner more and more"?
i. The rights are the right to run one's business the way one pleases, and to not engage in actions one finds immoral.
ii. Cultural Marxism is the problem.
iii. Who knows. I do not think it can be stopped. It has been lost and we just live in it, now. It will only change when a turning point comes and we make the right decision, or bad enough of a decision that it falls under its own weight.
iv. It isn't necessary to enumerate these.
@Philokalia
How would you define "cultural Marxism"?
And on 4, instead of 'enumerating', can you provide one example?
@philokalia saidIs this a reference to things like a business having to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple? Taxpayers' dollars being used in some way to fund abortions? Christians not being allowed to gather in churches during a pandemic? If yes, what else for example? If no, what do you mean then?
i. The rights are the right to run one's business the way one pleases, and to not engage in actions one finds immoral.
@philokalia saidI will be curious to see your response to BigDoggProblem's request for your definition of this.
ii. Cultural Marxism is the problem.
@philokalia saidCan you describe briefly what a "turning point" might look like and play out?
It will only change when a turning point comes and we make the right decision, or bad enough of a decision that it falls under its own weight.
@philokalia said"These" here refers to the "examples" mentioned in the question: "What are some examples of "Christians getting pushed into a corner more and more"?"
iv. It isn't necessary to enumerate these.
I think you should, as BigDoggProblem suggested, simply give some examples and not worry about enumerating them.