1. Standard memberDavid C
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    09 Jul '05 04:311 edit
    Sound good to you?

    "The national government... will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality."

    "Today Christians... stand at the head of [our country]. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity...We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past... few years."
  2. Standard memberKellyJay
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    09 Jul '05 05:05
    Originally posted by David C
    Sound good to you?

    "The national government... will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality."

    "Today Christians... stand at the head of [our country]. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to des ...[text shortened]... our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past... few years."
    Does not sound good to me, besides it is against the law.
    Kelly
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    09 Jul '05 06:57
    Who said it?
  4. Standard memberDavid C
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    10 Jul '05 05:11
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Does not sound good to me, besides it is against the law.
    Kelly
    Which part of the quote is against exactly which law, now?
  5. Standard memberDavid C
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    10 Jul '05 05:12
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    Who said it?
    Why? Does the quote not stand on its' own merit?
  6. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    10 Jul '05 05:42
    Originally posted by David C
    Why? Does the quote not stand on its' own merit?
    Hitler?
  7. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    10 Jul '05 06:45
    Yep. Hitler.

    http://www.christianethicstoday.com/Issue/045/EthixBytes_045_03_.htm
  8. Standard memberDavid C
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    10 Jul '05 06:46
    Spoilsports. 😵
  9. Standard memberOmnislash
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    10 Jul '05 08:221 edit
    Originally posted by David C
    Sound good to you?

    "The national government... will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality."

    " ...[text shortened]... a result of liberal excess during the past... few years."
    I find the quote to be highly open to interpretation. I would be far more inclined to support the speaker if they were more specific in what they considered to be "Christian".

    Of all the people in this world who call themselves Christian, few factions acknowledge many other factions to be "Christian". The very term by which such a world wide multitude self labels themselves has come to be rather vague in definition. Thusly, before I say yay or nay to this speakers support of "Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality" I would like to know what his/her personal identity of Christianity is.

    Furthermore, I am loath to support such a mix of religion and politics. When I speak of sociological matters I do not have to hid behind my belief system to validate my logic. When I am church, I speak of church. When I speak in public forum I speak of public issues. My personal theological beliefs may shape my motive, but if I am to suggest sociological reform to my neighbor I must speak of logic, not my beliefs. While the principle and overall lesson may be the same, when I speak of such reform I do so in terms of positives and negatives. That which is beneficial to the people, and that which is destructive.

    I would be far more inclined to support a person who speaks in such terms than a person who just so happens to have the self applied label as myself.

    Best Regards,

    Omnislash

    EDIT: Postponed posting this while site was down. Naturally, between the time of writing this and it actually being posted the source was revealed. Go figure. 😀
  10. Standard memberWulebgr
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    11 Jul '05 16:40
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Yep. Hitler.

    http://www.christianethicstoday.com/Issue/045/EthixBytes_045_03_.htm
    Rats, I guessed wrong. I thought it sounded like George W.
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    12 Jul '05 11:59
    just because hitler said it does that dismiss the sentiment. should not as a christian based laws and faith not stand our ground i do not belive that we should insist on our faith in lands whom follow other gods, i do however shiver at some who would take the "burn out" very serious.
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    12 Jul '05 12:291 edit
    Originally posted by David C
    Spoilsports. 😵
    sorry....

    can I atone for my interference with a slight example of why a non-scientific belief's use of pseudo-science is so dangerous.

    http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/eugenics/

    Also the rise of the right-wing in America started when Lyndon Johnson signed a civil rights law.
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    13 Jul '05 23:49
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Rats, I guessed wrong. I thought it sounded like George W.
    Actually, George W. Bush = Hitler, according to you libs out there. Or is it Ashcroft = Hitler? I forget WHO equals Hitler this week... maybe Karl Rove?
  14. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    14 Jul '05 00:121 edit
    Originally posted by TheBloop
    Actually, George W. Bush = Hitler, according to you libs out there. Or is it Ashcroft = Hitler? I forget WHO equals Hitler this week... maybe Karl Rove?
    two big differences in their backgrounds Bush was not driven insane by trench warfare and Bush only believes in money.
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    14 Jul '05 01:26
    Originally posted by David C
    Sound good to you?

    "The national government... will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality."

    "Today Christians... stand at the head of [our country]. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to des ...[text shortened]... our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past... few years."
    which type of Christians?
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