1. Zugzwang
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    17 Mar '15 20:361 edit
    "Rape of Nun, Church Attacks Make Indian Christians Anxious?"
    --Associated Press (17 March 2015, reported in 'Daily Mail' )

    "...Christian groups said his (India's Prime Minister Modi's) words did little to
    dispel the fear gripping the tiny community since his rightwing Hindu government
    came to power. 'We are feeling very, very vulnerable' ...
    Over the weekend a (Christian) nun in her 70s was gang-raped ... The men
    who attacked the Convent of Jesus and Mary School also ransacked the chapel
    and destroyed holy items, police said. ...
    'There is a sense of insecurity that the state will not protect us. The incidents
    are happening all over India.' said Rev Sunil Dandge, a pastor ..."

    Extreme right-wing Hindu fundamentalists have usually directed most of their
    hatred and violence against Muslims, sometimes also against Sikhs. Now they
    seem to be turning against Christians as well.
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    17 Mar '15 21:17
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    "Rape of Nun, Church Attacks Make Indian Christians Anxious?"
    --Associated Press (17 March 2015, reported in 'Daily Mail' )

    "...Christian groups said his (India's Prime Minister Modi's) words did little to
    dispel the fear gripping the tiny community since his rightwing Hindu government
    came to power. 'We are feeling very, very vulnerable' ...
    Over ...[text shortened]... Muslims, sometimes also against Sikhs. Now they
    seem to be turning against Christians as well.
    Fundamentalist Hindus view Christianity as a kind of attack on Indian culture. For the low caste Hindu, Christianity offered a way out of a religious system that is the most conservative and prejudicial in the world.
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    17 Mar '15 21:312 edits
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    "Rape of Nun, Church Attacks Make Indian Christians Anxious?"
    --Associated Press (17 March 2015, reported in 'Daily Mail' )

    "...Christian groups said his (India's Prime Minister Modi's) words did little to
    dispel the fear gripping the tiny community since his rightwing Hindu government
    came to power. 'We are feeling very, very vulnerable' ...
    Over ...[text shortened]... Muslims, sometimes also against Sikhs. Now they
    seem to be turning against Christians as well.
    What makes them right winged I wonder?

    Do they want a smaller government? Sounds like they want a more intrusive one.

    Do they want lower taxes? You can't get lower taxes with an intrusive government.

    Do they want to end abortions or gay marriage?

    Wut?
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    17 Mar '15 21:35
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Fundamentalist Hindus view Christianity as a kind of attack on Indian culture. For the low caste Hindu, Christianity offered a way out of a religious system that is the most conservative and prejudicial in the world.
    The caste system in India was ossified under British rule. The British tried to understand it in terms of their own class system, where classes were static and rarely individuals would move between classes. In the Indian caste system before British rule an individual's status would depend on their caste's fortunes, so the status of a caste could change over time. Typically a caste would represent a profession and how important the profession was determined the status of the caste. In the meantime they have neither dismantled the caste system altogether nor have they unfrozen it.

    So I think your characterization of the religious system as conservative and prejudiced is inaccurate partly because the caste system is not the religion and partly because the conservatism within the caste system was something imposed on them by Christians.

    All this shows is that when neo-fascists come to power minorities start to suffer.
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    17 Mar '15 21:401 edit
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    The caste system in India was ossified under British rule. The British tried to understand it in terms of their own class system, where classes were static and rarely individuals would move between classes. In the Indian caste system before British rule an individual's status would depend on their caste's fortunes, so the status of a caste could change ...[text shortened]... hristians.

    All this shows is that when neo-fascists come to power minorities start to suffer.
    Has anyone studied the number of deaths of women in kitchens in India?

    It's off the hook. The gig is, the man marries the woman for her dowry, and they torches her in the kitchen and labels it an "accident". Then he moves on to the next dowry.

    Blame this on Christians or "conservatives" if you like, but funny thing is, it only seems to happen in Hindu India.
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    17 Mar '15 21:591 edit
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    The caste system in India was ossified under British rule. The British tried to understand it in terms of their own class system, where classes were static and rarely individuals would move between classes. In the Indian caste system before British rule an individual's status would depend on their caste's fortunes, so the status of a caste could change ...[text shortened]... hristians.

    All this shows is that when neo-fascists come to power minorities start to suffer.
    The caste system is directly traceable to Hinduism and Hindu religious belief. It is thus enshrined in not only their religious beliefs and practices, but in their culture also.
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    17 Mar '15 22:001 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Has anyone studied the number of deaths of women in kitchens in India?

    It's off the hook. The gig is, the man marries the woman for her dowry, and they torches her in the kitchen and labels it an "accident". Then he moves on to the next dowry.

    Blame this on Christians or "conservatives" if you like, but funny thing is, it only seems to happen in Hindu India.
    No it also happens in Islamic Pakistan but for different reasons.
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    17 Mar '15 23:021 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    No it also happens in Islamic Pakistan but for different reasons.
    "Honey, how about some dinner? I'm feel'in hungry.........and poor." 😛
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    18 Mar '15 22:20
    Originally posted by whodey
    What makes them right winged I wonder?

    Do they want a smaller government? Sounds like they want a more intrusive one.

    Do they want lower taxes? You can't get lower taxes with an intrusive government.

    Do they want to end abortions or gay marriage?

    Wut?
    Simple.

    Right-winged = Conservative

    They want things the way they've been. They are fearful of change.
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    19 Mar '15 18:061 edit
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Simple.

    Right-winged = Conservative

    They want things the way they've been. They are fearful of change.
    We right wing conservatives are critical of change, not fearful. We ae not afraid to speak up against liberal changes that are bad for our way of life.

    Trying to type in the dark is more difficult that I had expected. 😏
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    19 Mar '15 20:12
    Originally posted by Suzianne to Whodey
    Simple.

    Right-winged = Conservative

    They want things the way they've been. They are fearful of change.
    Semantic note: 'Right-wing', not 'right-winged', is the usual political adjective.
    One writes of a 'right-wing extremist', not a 'right-winged extremist'.
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    21 Mar '15 20:55
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    We right wing conservatives are critical of change, not fearful. We ae not afraid to speak up against liberal changes that are bad for our way of life.

    Trying to type in the dark is more difficult that I had expected. 😏
    Yes, you have been in the dark for decades.
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