Do complex instructions come from minds, or could mindless processes write them? The difficulty of the instructions is a huge part of the question, but the medium in which they were written adds to the question. If they were carved in stone, painted on a cave wall, written with a pin or pencil, found in digital code, or set up in biological systems, what would that add to mindlessness being able to pull it off, or do all of them suggest a mind was at work?
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@KellyJay saidI'm not exactly sure what you're getting at here, but will try to answer your first 2 questions:
Do complex instructions come from minds, or could mindless processes write them? The difficulty of the instructions is a huge part of the question, but the medium in which they were written adds to the question. If they were carved in stone, painted on a cave wall, written with a pin or pencil, found in digital code, or set up in biological systems, what would that add to mindlessness being able to pull it off, or do all of them suggest a mind was at work?
1. Q: Do complex instructions come from minds? A: Yes, mindless things such as rocks, water, fire hydrants etc. don't normally produce complex instructions they are normally produced by creatures possessing some intelligence.
2. Q: Could mindless processes write them? A: Yes - Computer programs such as A.I. could write them, but only if they were programmed to do so.
@mchill saidYou are confused if you think a mind is not behind AI, the A is a real thing in ARTIFICIAL intelligence, it totally depends upon the coders who place variables in the code and tell AI what to do with them, the coder instructs what weight should be placed on something rather than others. AI is a tool, not a being with the will to act upon its own volition.
I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at here, but will try to answer your first 2 questions:
1. Q: Do complex instructions come from minds? A: Yes, mindless things such as rocks, water, fire hydrants etc. don't normally produce complex instructions they are normally produced by creatures possessing some intelligence.
2. Q: Could mindless processes write them? A: Yes - Computer programs such as A.I. could write them, but only if they were programmed to do so.
@KellyJay saidYou should probably read the book "Irreducible" by Federico Faggin, which came out only a few months ago. He invented the microprocessor and talks along similar lines.
You are confused if you think a mind is not behind AI, the A is a real thing in ARTIFICIAL intelligence, it totally depends upon the coders who place variables in the code and tell AI what to do with them, the coder instructs what weight should be placed on something rather than others. AI is a tool, not a being with the will to act upon its own volition.
@mchill saidYou are correct I misread you earlier, AI only if a programmer wrote it.
I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at here, but will try to answer your first 2 questions:
1. Q: Do complex instructions come from minds? A: Yes, mindless things such as rocks, water, fire hydrants etc. don't normally produce complex instructions they are normally produced by creatures possessing some intelligence.
2. Q: Could mindless processes write them? A: Yes - Computer programs such as A.I. could write them, but only if they were programmed to do so.
@Soothfast saidI worked in the backend of microprocessor development for over 20 years, so I've dabbled in both hardware and software, they don't just come together and work without a great deal of effort.
You should probably read the book "Irreducible" by Federico Faggin, which came out only a few months ago. He invented the microprocessor and talks along similar lines.
@Soothfast saidSo with chemical reactions directing chemicals by utilizing the properties of
True, albeit rather obvious.
chemicals correctly, they come together through instructions built into life to
control replication, reproductions, and the building of forms and functions just
seems so easy it could occur under a rock somewhere, or in some pond without
help is a no-brainer and should just be accepted as factual?