Originally posted by twhitehead
My immediate thoughts on some of these:
1. Those who receive Gods grace will go to heaven and those that do not will go to hell.
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I can read of nowhere in the Bible where taking one's sinful nature to heaven would be something God would want. Unless the grace can transform us to be as Christ, there is no reason to be taken where we would not want to go in the first place.
How much anyone sinned is irrelevant to those outcomes.
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That can't be the case. Look at what Jesus said here:
"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you go about the sea and the dry land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one . you make him twice as much a son of Gehenna as yourself." (Matt. 23:15)
Since Jesus spoke here of two condemned to Gehenna, and one being twice as worthy as the other. it seems degrees of responsibility exist with God somehow.
2. Same heaven and hell options but for those going to heaven there will be punishment for sin prior to entry.
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The Bible does not speak of heaven as the final destination in eternity for anyone. And in the new universe, all the sons of God will be perfected to be a corporate expression of fully deified humanity.
The process unto that state includes not only forgiveness but transformation in nature.
3. Sin may have an impact on whether or not you get to heaven.
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When i read verses like
Hebrews 12:14 I realize that transformation and sanctification must do their work in every part of my being.
"Pursue peace with all men and sanctification, without which no one will see the Lord."
His purpose calls for us being conformed dispositionally to the image of Christ. This is really the essence of the most basic epistle on Christian teching -
Romans.
"For if we being enemies, were reconciled to God through the death of His Son; much more we will be saved in His life, having been reconciled." (Rom. 5:10)
As to the past - reconciled to God through Christ's death.
As to the present and future - saved in the realm of His available indwelling life.
The
FULL salvation is of both being reconciled by Christ's death judicially, and saved in His resurrection life "organically".
4. Sin will only have an impact on entry to heaven under certain circumstances eg if you are not a Christian or if you sin after your last confession.
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The destination of every son of God is to be presented positionally and dispositionally without blemish or spot before God. He is righteous and faithful to His covenant to present each believe pure and spotless before Him.
He marked out this destiny beforehand and will carry it out. At most we may cause Him some delay only.
" Even as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world to be holy and without blemish before Him in love, Predestinating us unto sonship through Jesus Christ to Himself ... "(Eph. 1:4,5a)
His very covenant calls for Him to be able to present the church to Himself without any moral blemish or any such thing:
" That He might sanctify her [the church], cleansing her by the washing of the water in the word,
That He might present the church to Himself glorious, nit having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she would be holy and without blemish." (Eph. 5:26,27)
5. Sin will have consequences in this life.
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In this life, sin has consequence. In the millennial kingdom some sons of God require extended discipline after the church age.
By the time of the new universe in
Revelation 21,22 the final
New Jerusalem sees all the sons of God throughout the ages as matured and perfected.
Christ came to be
the Firstborn among many brothers. Every saved believer will arrive. We will not all arrive at the same time. But we will all arrive.
Christ the High Priest is able to save us to the
uttermost. He always lives forever to intercede for His redeemed people.
" But He, because He abides forever, has His priesthood unalterable. Hence also He is able to save to the UTTERMOST, those who come forward to God through Him, since He lives always to intercede for them." (Heb. 7:24,25)
The expression on Christ's face is full of radiant confidence that His life and nature will fully transform every believer in Him to be like Him.