@fmf saidWhat is interesting is how some of the Christian in this forum seem to see this cosmic justice as being an ultimate divine recompense for the billions and billions of people who don’t believe in the same deity as they do.
Since there is no one who can demonstrate that cosmic justice exists, is belief in it simply a coping mechanism for those who need to make sense of the injustice and impunity that beset the real world?
26 Feb 22
@fmf saidWhat do you think justice means?
Since there is no one who can demonstrate that cosmic justice exists, is belief in it simply a coping mechanism for those who need to make sense of the injustice and impunity that beset the real world?
@kellyjay saidYou asked me this exact same question about three or four weeks ago and, taking your query at face value, I answered it - in good faith - in a post that I took some care over writing. It was a reply that you simply ignored; I suggest you go with that answer.
What do you think justice means?
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@fmf saidCan you give an example of what you think "cosmic justice" is? Is it fluke justice?
Since there is no one who can demonstrate that cosmic justice exists, is belief in it simply a coping mechanism for those who need to make sense of the injustice and impunity that beset the real world?
Also, can you give an example of the injustice and impunity that has beset the real world? and why do you think it has beset the real world?
@kingdavid403 said[Q1] Evil people often elude justice, e.g. many Nazis lived out their lives beyond the reach of the law in South America.
can you give an example of the injustice and impunity that has beset the real world? and why do you think it has beset the real world?
[Q2] Human weakness, immorality, and problems with the "reach of the law".
@kingdavid403 said[Q1] Well, I don’t believe it exists, so those that do might be better placed to give examples. Cosmic justice is a somewhat nebulous notion that each person is punished by fate, or karma, or God or the gods and the like for each bad thing they do.
Can you give an example of what you think "cosmic justice" is? Is it fluke justice?
[Q2] I wouldn't say so, no. Indeed, the opposite. It's a notion of order, fairness and inevitability. Not luck at all. As far as I can make out, anyway.
26 Feb 22
@fmf saidThank you for your honest answers; and, I mostly agree with them. I'm gonna have to get back to you on this one, as there is much here in your somewhat short responses.
[Q1] Evil people often elude justice, e.g. many Nazis lived out their lives beyond the reach of the law in South America.
[Q2] Human weakness, immorality, and problems with the "reach of the law".
Talk soon, 🙂
@kingdavid403 saidThe words "admirably succinct" make my responses sound more sophisticated than calling them "somewhat short". 😉
I'm gonna have to get back to you on this one, as there is much here in your somewhat short responses.
26 Feb 22
@fmf saidlol... Thank you. I really did struggle somewhat to come up with the right words in that response. My English is below par; that's for-sure. 🙂
The words "admirably succinct" make my responses sound more sophisticated than calling them "somewhat short". 😉
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@fmf saidWell, I do believe in Justice from God, as do most religions of the world. Cosmic is not the correct word for me here. Anyways, I've seen it, I've felt it, and it's in the Scriptures of the Bible, as you know. I do not believe we are punished for "each bad thing that we do". There would be no need for forgiveness, if we are justly punished for every bad, or evil thing we do. If so, we would all be doomed, and there would have been no need for Jesus (aka God) to shed His Blood for us; with the physical human body and life that He had while on this earth; until He was Resurrected anyway.
[Q1] Well, I don’t believe it exists, so those that do might be better placed to give examples. Cosmic justice is a somewhat nebulous notion that each person is punished by fate, or karma, or God or the gods and the like for each bad thing they do.
[Q2] I wouldn't say so, no. Indeed, the opposite. It's a notion of order, fairness and inevitability. Not luck at all. As far as I can make out, anyway.
Human weakness, immorality, and problems with the "reach of the law".
What do you think causes "human weakness, immorality, and evil" in us humans? Why? What would be the drive to do those things?
26 Feb 22
@fmf saidI don't recall, tell me where to look, I will find it.
You asked me this exact same question about three or four weeks ago and, taking your query at face value, I answered it - in good faith - in a post that I took some care over writing. It was a reply that you simply ignored; I suggest you go with that answer.