Originally posted by jaywill
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Correct -so?
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So independence and thinking for yourself is kind of relative.
What are you doing that most of us are not doing?
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…One could argue that your being dependent upon them hence not being independent. .….
I would on.
You said your independent thinking comes from your brain.
Is that unique to you ?
…Correct -so?
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So independence and thinking for yourself is kind of relative.
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“relative” to what?
…What are you doing that MOST of us are not doing? .…. (my emphasis)
“MOST”? -I assume it is only a minority that seem incapable/unwilling to ever think critically and independently -so I assume I am just doing what the majority do -reason. This is because the majority at least do not seem to be anti-science or, even worse, anti-reason.
……One could argue that your being dependent upon them hence not being independent. .….
I would be dependent upon them to give me THEIR insight
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Same with a theists.
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On issues about science from those that are not anti-science, yes.
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but that doesn’t prevent me thinking critically and independently and, with this independent and critical thinking,
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Same with a Christian. I don't see anything terribly unique yet.
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Correct -if you are comparing Christians with non-Christians that is.
But that is not what I am talking about -where did I mention “Christians verses non-Christians“ or “Christians verses atheists“ or “theists verses atheists“?
-how about comparing those that are anti-science with those that are not (regardless of whether or not they are theists) ? -most Christians are not anti-science so you do not speak for the majority of them here.
….I will always scrutinise their insight and may sometimes question their insight and even occasionally conclude that it is wrong.
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Same with a person of faith.
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-unless what the other person says supports that blind faith.
……The reasoning brain that gradually tumbled out of millions of years of fortunate accidents of material randomly interacting ..…
Not quite -natural selection is not “random”.
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It is atheistically intelligent, at least intelligent enough to make a selection.
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A process doesn’t need intelligence to make a non-intelligent selection. The current of a river may selectively wash away the lighter-weight particles of sand but not be strong enough to wash away the heavier ones -thus you have a process that is selective but which uses non-intelligent selection -no intelligence needed.
….You said your independent thinking comes from your brain.
Is that unique to you ?
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No -in fact, the majority of theists and atheists alike do it. What is relatively unique is somebody to NOT ever thinking critically or independently -this would be a person with a brain defect worthy of scientific study.