1. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    12 Nov '11 20:49
    Critically significant words...


    Critically significant words to human beings universally in the entire course of a lifetime (irrespective of labels they may choose to wear or ignore) would seem to me to include commonsense, fairness and integrity. That's my humble point of view. Yours?

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    12 Nov '11 22:18
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]Critically significant words...


    Critically significant words to human beings universally in the entire course of a lifetime (irrespective of labels they may choose to wear or ignore) would seem to me to include commonsense, fairness and integrity. That's my humble point of view. Yours?

    gb[/b]
    Fairness and integrity are certainly good concepts...
    However unfortunately 'common sense' is far too often wrong to be really useful,
    scientific skepticism is a better replacement.

    Empathy and compassion are also vitally important.
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    12 Nov '11 23:021 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge

    Fairness and integrity are certainly good concepts...
    However unfortunately 'common sense' is far too often wrong to be really useful,
    scientific skepticism is a better replacement.

    Empathy and compassion are also vitally important.
    Imprecise word to be sure. Used 'commonsense' in the very practical, not philosophical sense, as a code word for sound and prudent judgement. Reasonable and perhaps more nearly accurate alternative might be 'good sense' (as in to come in out of the rain).


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    13 Nov '11 04:15
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]Critically significant words...


    Critically significant words to human beings universally in the entire course of a lifetime (irrespective of labels they may choose to wear or ignore) would seem to me to include commonsense, fairness and integrity. That's my humble point of view. Yours?

    gb[/b]
    Let me add honesty before Dasa beats me to it.
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    13 Nov '11 16:28
    Originally posted by RJHinds

    Let me add honesty before Dasa beats me to it.
    Veracity and Honesty are alive and well and sitting prominently in the spacious

    and comfortable passenger compartment of the limousine Integrity is driving.


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    13 Nov '11 18:301 edit
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]Critically significant words...


    Critically significant words to human beings universally in the entire course of a lifetime (irrespective of labels they may choose to wear or ignore) would seem to me to include commonsense, fairness and integrity. That's my humble point of view. Yours?

    gb[/b]
    those are all subjective concepts.

    rj already mentioned honesty, i would go one further; honesty to the self. or in the alleged words of william shakespeare, "to thine own self be true"

    and in the words of metallica, "when a man lies, he murders a part of the world."
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    13 Nov '11 19:54
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit

    those are all subjective concepts.


    rj already mentioned honesty, i would go one further; honesty to the self. or in the alleged words of william shakespeare, "to thine own self be true"

    and in the words of metallica, "when a man lies, he murders a part of the world."
    "The primary rule of life: Relax." -VS


    Objective concept?
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    13 Nov '11 19:59
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]Critically significant words...


    Critically significant words to human beings universally in the entire course of a lifetime (irrespective of labels they may choose to wear or ignore) would seem to me to include commonsense, fairness and integrity. That's my humble point of view. Yours?

    gb[/b]
    Love.
    Hate.
    Indifference.
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    13 Nov '11 22:12
    Originally posted by sumydid
    Love.
    Hate.
    Indifference.
    "Indifference" <----------------------------that's a biggee!!!
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    13 Nov '11 23:581 edit
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    "Indifference" [b]<----------------------------that's a biggee!!![/b]
    I was taught by a female English Lit/Grammer teacher I love and respect very much, and still keep in touch with, that indifference is actually much worse than hate. And she was right.

    If you hate someone, you dedicate a large amount of strong emotion toward them.

    But to be completely cold and indifferent? There's just nothing worse to feel toward another and nothing worse to be the recipient of.

    I think she spun off into the conversation after we reviewed someone's poem about unrequited love.


    *edit*
    I did my usual edit after rereading my post... and saw this: "...and nothing worse to be the recipient of."

    Is that bad grammar? I can't figure out how to fix it.
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    14 Nov '11 00:58
    Originally posted by sumydid
    I was taught by a female English Lit/Grammer teacher I love and respect very much, and still keep in touch with, that indifference is actually much worse than hate. And she was right.

    If you hate someone, you dedicate a large amount of strong emotion toward them.

    But to be completely cold and indifferent? There's just nothing worse to feel toward ano ...[text shortened]... g worse to be the recipient of."

    Is that bad grammar? I can't figure out how to fix it.
    I agree to the extent that I toyed with posting something similar.

    It's a theme played out in the harry potter novels incidentally,
    Sirius treated his house elf with indifference which is why he betrayed their secrets and got him killed.


    as for the grammar... How about;

    "There is nothing worse than being treated with indifference, and no worse feeling to express to another" ?



    I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment behind it, It isn't indifference per-Se that causes the problem.
    It's indifference by someone you care about, or should care about you, that hurts.

    You don't really care that much if your cashier at the local supermarket is indifferent towards you.
    However its a different matter if it was your mother who was indifferent, or the girl you have a crush on, ect.
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    14 Nov '11 01:02
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    However unfortunately 'common sense' is far too often wrong to be really useful
    "Common sense" to Japanese means don't disturb the group's consensus. To me (a non-Japanese person), "common sense" - in practical terms- might often require me to disturb or dissent from the group's consensus.
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    14 Nov '11 01:301 edit
    Originally posted by sumydid

    I was taught by a female English Lit/Grammer teacher I love and respect very much, and still keep in touch with, that indifference is actually much worse than hate. And she was right.

    If you hate someone, you dedicate a large amount of strong emotion toward them.

    But to be completely cold and indifferent? There's just nothing worse to feel toward a thing worse to be the recipient of."

    Is that bad grammar? I can't figure out how to fix it.
    "There's just nothing worse to be the recipient of or to feel toward another."

    Simply recasting the sentence gets rid of the floating preposition. Please leave a 20% gratuity or a dime or the contents
    of your pocket, the lesser of the three on the counter. Fresh Lemonade & Affordable Advice Stand Staff thank you.

    gb (soul proprietor)


    😉
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    14 Nov '11 01:31
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    I agree to the extent that I toyed with posting something similar.

    It's a theme played out in the harry potter novels incidentally,
    Sirius treated his house elf with indifference which is why he betrayed their secrets and got him killed.


    as for the grammar... How about;

    "There is nothing worse than being treated with indifference, and no wor ...[text shortened]... t matter if it was your mother who was indifferent, or the girl you have a crush on, ect.
    Indeed you are correct (though it may matter to some, how attractive said female cashier is 😉 )

    Yes, I guess I should have made sure to indicate that indifference is the worst thing to feel toward another with whom you have a close relationship with.
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    14 Nov '11 01:35
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]"There's just nothing worse to be the recipient of or to feel toward another."

    Simply recasting the sentence gets rid of the floating preposition. Please leave a 20% gratuity or a dime or the contents
    of your pocket, the lesser of the three on the counter. Fresh Lemonade & Affordable Advice Stand Staff thank you.

    gb (soul proprietor)


    😉[/b]
    I'll throw in a little extra money since you're selling fish. I prefer it fried in sticks so I don't have to deal with bones. Thanks.
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