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    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Really? I thought Jesus spoke Aramaic. I didn't know He spoke Greek.

    Perhaps you meant the writers of the NT wrote in idiomatic Greek.
    perhaps you would like to explain the forum how the Greek idiomatic phrase detailing
    the specific use of a predicate noun should be translated into English in this instance?
    we do not say, RJHinds slaphead i am , it does not make sense in English, nooo, we
    say, I am RjHinds a slaphead, because that's what a predicate noun does, its tells us
    something about the subject.

    But you are uninterested in accuracy of statement, instead you are intent to utilise a
    translation that was itself translated 500 years ago, with limited documentation and is
    in fact, not based on original manuscripts, but the Latin Vulgate making it a translation
    of a translation.
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    15 Nov '11 16:29
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    perhaps you would like to explain the forum how the Greek idiomatic phrase detailing
    the specific use of a predicate noun should be translated into English in this instance?
    we do not say, RJHinds slaphead i am , it does not make sense in English, nooo, we
    say, I am RjHinds a slaphead, because that's what a predicate noun does, its tells us
    s ...[text shortened]... ased on original manuscripts, but the Latin Vulgate making it a translation
    of a translation.
    This has already been explained to you before, so there is no need to
    explain it all over again because you will just get amnesia again. That
    is what happens to you when ever you here truth that you do not want
    to believe.
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    15 Nov '11 18:06
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    This has already been explained to you before, so there is no need to
    explain it all over again because you will just get amnesia again. That
    is what happens to you when ever you here truth that you do not want
    to believe.
    you explained nothing, your full of it!
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    15 Nov '11 22:27
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I am the one who has constantly brought it to the attention of the 'Christians', who
    frequent this forum and not one has the courage to state why, in two world wars the
    denominations of Christendom cast aside the love of the Christ and went on
    unprecedented killing spree against fellow 'Christians', demonstrating without a doubt
    that they are unworthy of the Lord.
    You yourself show no love for your Christian brothers here. Yet you expect them to follow your perfect example, do you?
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    15 Nov '11 22:36
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    perhaps you would like to explain the forum how the Greek idiomatic phrase detailing
    the specific use of a predicate noun should be translated into English in this instance?
    we do not say, RJHinds slaphead i am , it does not make sense in English, nooo, we
    say, I am RjHinds a slaphead, because that's what a predicate noun does, its tells us
    s ...[text shortened]... ased on original manuscripts, but the Latin Vulgate making it a translation
    of a translation.
    You dance around the issue I put forth to you.

    I do not care about your constant feud with RJH, and I really don't care whose is bigger.

    You said:
    Christ was using very simply idiomatic Greek


    And I said: Really? I thought Jesus spoke Aramaic. I didn't know He spoke Greek.

    So stop with all the extraneous crap about your feud with RJH, I really couldn't care less. What makes you think Jesus spoke Greek? Get to my point and answer the question.
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    16 Nov '11 02:27
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    You dance around the issue I put forth to you.

    I do not care about your constant feud with RJH, and I really don't care whose is bigger.

    You said:
    Christ was using very simply idiomatic Greek


    And I said: Really? I thought Jesus spoke Aramaic. I didn't know He spoke Greek.

    So stop with all the extraneous crap about your feud with ...[text shortened]... care less. What makes you think Jesus spoke Greek? Get to my point and answer the question.
    Many scholars think Jesus spoke Aramaic. We know for sure that He
    spoke Hebrew because the Holy Bible says He spoke in the Hebrew
    dialect to Paul. He may also have spoken Aramaic and Greek but
    the Holy Bible does not say for sure.
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    16 Nov '11 02:31
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Many scholars think Jesus spoke Aramaic. We know for sure that He
    spoke Hebrew because the Holy Bible says He spoke in the Hebrew
    dialect to Paul. He may also have spoken Aramaic and Greek but
    the Holy Bible does not say for sure.
    I suppose Jesus could speak any language Jesus wanted to speak, no?
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    17 Nov '11 00:12
    Originally posted by JS357
    I suppose Jesus could speak any language Jesus wanted to speak, no?
    Yes, if he learned it first or the Holy Spirit came on Him with those
    tongues of fire.
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    17 Nov '11 00:14
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Yes, if he learned it first or the Holy Spirit came on Him with those
    tongues of fire.
    However for practical purposes speaking a language other than that of the people he was
    talking to would have been pointless.
    So barring god teaching everyone a new language he would have been limited to using whatever
    the locals spoke.
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    17 Nov '11 07:09
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    However for practical purposes speaking a language other than that of the people he was
    talking to would have been pointless.
    So barring god teaching everyone a new language he would have been limited to using whatever
    the locals spoke.
    Yes that is correct and apparently Paul understood the Hebrew dialect that
    Jesus used when He spoke to Him.
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    17 Nov '11 07:16
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    This has already been explained to you before, so there is no need to
    explain it all over again because you will just get amnesia again. That
    is what happens to you when ever you here truth that you do not want
    to believe.
    I think it totally unfair of others to expect you to understand hebrew, Greek and latin when you struggle with English.

    Now write out 3 times;
    whenever whenever whenever

    hear hear hear
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    17 Nov '11 07:21
    Originally posted by RJHinds

    To remain trustworthy to a cause it could become necessary to deceive.
    I see now ... to prove ones trustworthiness it is sometimes necessary to be deceitful!

    When will the Concise Hinds Dictionary be available in the shops?
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    17 Nov '11 08:22
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I see now ... to prove ones trustworthiness it is sometimes necessary to be deceitful!

    When will the Concise Hinds Dictionary be available in the shops?
    When Christians rescued and hid some Jews from the German Nazis they
    sometimes had to deceive them in order to stay true to their cause of
    saving the Jews. You may have never read about it, but I have.
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