1. Shetland Primary
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    25 Jul '05 15:17
    Is death reversible? In other words, is it possible for a person to be raised from the dead?

    If not, then why not?
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    25 Jul '05 15:21
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Is death reversible? In other words, is it possible for a person to be raised from the dead?

    If not, then why not?
    What is "dead" to you?

    Why not just cut to the chase and regale us with your marvelous testimony of how a person you knew was raised from the dead, not unlike Lazarus and/or Jesus.
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    25 Jul '05 16:01
    There are various states of the body/brain to which the label 'death' can be applied. Here is a quick guide to it, as posted in the other thread where this subject has cropped up:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death#Human_death:__definitions_and_significance

    Here is a brief passage from it:

    Historically, attempts to define the exact moment of death have been problematic. Death was once defined as the cessation of heartbeat (cardiac arrest) and of breathing, for example, but the development of CPR and early defibrillation posed a challenge: either the definition of death was incorrect, or techniques had been discovered that really allowed one to reverse death (because, in some cases, breathing and heartbeat can be restarted). Generally, the first option was chosen. (Today this definition of death is known as "clinical death".)

    Today, where a definition of the moment of death is required, we usually turn to "brain death" or "biological death": people are considered dead when the electrical activity in their brain ceases (cf. persistent vegetative state). It is presumed that a stoppage of electrical activity indicates the end of consciousness.


    As to whether people can be raised from the dead, it is reasonable to presume that if you use the cardiac death definition then yes, but not if you use the brain death definition which is irreversible.
  4. Standard memberThequ1ck
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    Have you read schrodingers cat?

    Here is an offering.
    When a person 'dies', they cease to be in your
    version of reality. They are buried and you never see
    them again. But...
    In their reality they continue to go about
    their life, meeting with friends and even a version
    of you that doesn't know that they are dead in
    an alternative plane.
    You see the problem is the idea of nothing-ness
    is a man made construct. We can prove this by the
    fact logically (to us) the universe should be empty,
    a total void which itself doesn't exist. But it does
    and that is undeniable.
    So what if we look at death the same way?
    Where does that lead us?
    We have no proof of past or future, only now,
    moment by moment. We believe our memories to
    be true but we have no proof. The only thing which
    is true are our feelings at any given time.

    Now we should never underestimate the power of
    our feelings. The universe is truly vast so it seems,
    but, without a consciousness to view it and determine
    it, it is truly truly tiny, nonexistent even :-)
    So these consciousnesses need to go on, they are
    the universe and we are it.

    Is it possible to bring someone back from the dead??
    I believe we can interact with the dead because our
    planes are linked but I don't think we can bring them
    back to our plane.
    Unless the fate of consciousness itself was at stake and
    then I think it could be possible, as Jesus was said to
    have done.


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    26 Jul '05 15:59
    Originally posted by Thequ1ck
    Have you read schrodingers cat?

    Here is an offering.
    When a person 'dies', they cease to be in your
    version of reality. They are buried and you never see
    them again. But...
    In their reality they continue to go about
    their life, meeting with friends and even a version
    of you that doesn't know that they are dead in
    an alternative plane.
    You se ...[text shortened]... self was at stake and
    then I think it could be possible, as Jesus was said to
    have done.


    Interesting reply. Boy, could we have a good dialogue.
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