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Originally posted by Bosse de NageKalisch says: "The results were such that it is my conviction that it cannot be proven whether Muhammad actually lived or not" but that's not the same as if Mohammed didn't exist. He just says that he isn't sure of it.
The implications for the questioner may be more drastic in this case.
Originally posted by FabianFnasAgain you quote someone, but completely avoid what he said and merely speak with yourself.
Kalisch says: "The results were such that it is my conviction that it cannot be proven whether Muhammad actually lived or not" but that's not the same as if Mohammed didn't exist. He just says that he isn't sure of it.
Is there any proof that Moses existed? Yes, the bible says so.
Is there any proof that Mohammed existed? (Same kind of question, same ...[text shortened]... at Mohammed is a historic person, then he is a historic person. As Moses is a real person.
Originally posted by PalynkaThe quotation comes form one of the links. Then I comment this quote.
Again you quote someone, but completely avoid what he said and merely speak with yourself.
Hopeless.
Bosse: It's a sad day when political correctness seems to trump scholarship. His arguments should be addressed, not simply stifled.
Originally posted by FabianFnasI did add something. On topic. I directed it at Bosse, however, as I heard enough of your parroting.
The quotation comes form one of the links. Then I comment this quote.
Do you want to add something, perhaps your opinion in the matter, or are you just trolling? 🙂
Originally posted by FabianFnasis there proof that superman exists...yes the comics books say so.
Kalisch says: "The results were such that it is my conviction that it cannot be proven whether Muhammad actually lived or not" but that's not the same as if Mohammed didn't exist. He just says that he isn't sure of it.
Is there any proof that Moses existed? Yes, the bible says so.
Is there any proof that Mohammed existed? (Same kind of question, same at Mohammed is a historic person, then he is a historic person. As Moses is a real person.
mentioOriginally posted by FabianFnasPlease , could you give me the Roman sources that mentions Jesus.
Kalisch says: "The results were such that it is my conviction that it cannot be proven whether Muhammad actually lived or not" but that's not the same as if Mohammed didn't exist. He just says that he isn't sure of it.
Is there any proof that Moses existed? Yes, the bible says so.
Is there any proof that Mohammed existed? (Same kind of question, ...[text shortened]... at Mohammed is a historic person, then he is a historic person. As Moses is a real person.
Originally posted by FabianFnasYour comparison can't hold:
Kalisch says: "The results were such that it is my conviction that it cannot be proven whether Muhammad actually lived or not" but that's not the same as if Mohammed didn't exist. He just says that he isn't sure of it.
Is there any proof that Moses existed? Yes, the bible says so.
Is there any proof that Mohammed existed? (Same kind of question, same ...[text shortened]... at Mohammed is a historic person, then he is a historic person. As Moses is a real person.
Originally posted by ahosyneyahosyney. "So I have to say you are wrong!"
Your comparison can't hold:
There is no written information about Moses except of the holly books, but that doens't hold for Prophet Mohammed.
It seems that you don't know anything about the prophet Mohammed when you say:
[b]Is there any proof that Mohammed existed? (Same kind of question, same kind of answer.) Yes, the quaran says so.
not o ...[text shortened]... kind of answer.) No, just hearsay, nothing more.
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So I have to say you are wrong!![/b]
Originally posted by FabianFnasthat is good!!!
ahosyney. "So I have to say you are wrong!"
That's okay, even Kalisch was wrong in our eyes.
Personally I belive in the existance of Mohammed (as well as Moses and Jesus). I also believe in their significance on the people of that time and thereafter, I have no problem with that either.