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    Discrimination against Christians in UK

    Documentary presented by Nicky Campbell outlining clear examples of marginilisation of Christians in the UK. Christians are inceasingly being sidelined and having their freedom of speech and freedom of religious conscience threatened. This is a non-Christian documentary documenting many examples of this disturbing pattern.

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    Christian arrested in UK for calling sexuality immorality a "sin"

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    Even as their streets overflow with hooligans, rapists, and radical Islamic Imams— David Cameron’s jackbooted thugs scramble to subdue the imminent threat that is Tony Miano, an old, out-of-shape, harmless Christian preacher…

    Tony Miano was held for 6 hours and had his fingerprints and DNA taken…

    Mr Miano, who served as a Deputy Sherriff in Los Angeles County, said his experience suggested that the term “thought police” had become a reality in the UK.

    He said he was amazed that it was now possible “in the country that produced the Magna Carta” for people to be arrested for what they say.

    Mr Miano, who was provided with a solicitor by the Christian Legal Centre, was arrested under the controversial clause of the Public Order Act which bans “insulting” words or behaviour.

    Note how quickly these brown shirts responded to this imminent threat– when compared to their response to terrorists literally cutting off a soldier’s head in the middle of the street…

    Two Blacks Behead White Man In UK

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    MUSLIM EXTREMIST HACK AND BEHEAD UK SOLDIER IN BROAD DAYLIGHT ON LONDON STREET

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    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/07/10/comment-it-was-wrong-of-the-police-to-arrest-preacher-tony-miano-because-of-his-anti-gay-views/

    Thanks to lobbying by the National Secular Society, the Peter Tatchell Foundation, and the Christian Institute, Section 5 of the Public Order Act will no longer criminalise use of insulting words or insulting behaviour. And about time too: the law already protects against discrimination, incitement and violence.


    Lawmakers often overreact and/or are incompetent in writing laws.

    That is why we have the ability to fix them, which is much faster and easier to do in the UK vs the USA.

    Even as their streets overflow with hooligans, rapists, and radical Islamic Imams— ....



    Only in the crazed imaginings of paranoid right-wing nut-jobs do our streets overflow with any of those.

    Our streets are safer than those in the USA, possibly in part because we have effective gun control, and a working
    welfare state.
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    Originally posted by googlefudge
    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/07/10/comment-it-was-wrong-of-the-police-to-arrest-preacher-tony-miano-because-of-his-anti-gay-views/

    [quote]Thanks to lobbying by [b]the National Secular Society,
    the Peter Tatchell Foundation, and the Christian Institute, Section 5 of the Public Order Act will no longer criminalise use of insulting words or insulti ...[text shortened]... the USA, possibly in part because we have effective gun control, and a working
    welfare state.[/b]
    I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for the incredibly stupid attitude and statements and video's of Hinds. He is an embarrassment to humanity and in no way represents any kind of majority opinion in the US. He clearly is just another troll not interested in either science or truth, only in the propagation of his own twisted views where he just parrots the words of others just as twisted as he.

    Hinds is clearly incapable of forming his own thoughts on any subject, just presenting an ever increasing stream of bogus pseudoscientific nonsense video's in his desperate and failed attempt to convert people to his twisted logic.
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    [b]Discrimination against Christians in UK

    Documentary presented by Nicky Campbell outlining clear examples of marginilisation of Christians in the UK. Christians are inceasingly being sidelined and having their freedom of speech and freedom of religious conscience threatened. This is a non-Christian documentary documenting many examples of this disturbing pattern.

    [youtube]6nA7rqqNTZg[/youtube][/b]
    this is not a Christian country 48% of the population have no faith at all (daily Telegraph)
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    Originally posted by redbadger
    this is not a Christian country 48% of the population have no faith at all (daily Telegraph)
    That is a good thing.
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    Originally posted by redbadger
    this is not a Christian country 48% of the population have no faith at all (daily Telegraph)
    I would like to see where they got that number from, as I didn't believe [sadly] that it was that high.
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    Originally posted by sonhouse
    That is a good thing.
    it would be better if it was 100%
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    Originally posted by redbadger
    it would be better if it was 100%
    True, although it's more important that we have a properly secular and rational
    government that acted on and with scientific principles.

    Because if that were true, the proportion of religious believers would be significantly
    less important.

    [note, talking entirely in relative terms, and not absolute terms here. Ending religious
    and superstitious irrational beliefs generally would have significant and worthwhile
    benefits regardless.]
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    Originally posted by googlefudge
    True, although it's more important that we have a properly secular and rational
    government that acted on and with scientific principles.

    Because if that were true, the proportion of religious believers would be significantly
    less important.

    [note, talking entirely in relative terms, and not absolute terms here. Ending religious
    and superstitious irrational beliefs generally would have significant and worthwhile
    benefits regardless.]
    I think there should be a 'Manhattan" level project with the goal of developing an atheist virus. Where the more radialized you are, you get the virus, you become the most atheistic.
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    [b]Discrimination against Christians in UK

    Documentary presented by Nicky Campbell outlining clear examples of marginilisation of Christians in the UK. Christians are inceasingly being sidelined and having their freedom of speech and freedom of religious conscience threatened. This is a non-Christian documentary documenting many examples of this disturbing pattern.

    [youtube]6nA7rqqNTZg[/youtube][/b]
    2 Tim 3:12-14
    Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
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    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I think there should be a 'Manhattan" level project with the goal of developing an atheist virus. Where the more radialized you are, you get the virus, you become the most atheistic.
    Apart from the fact that that is almost certainly not possible, it is most certainly unethical.

    It's also unnecessary, you can quite successfully combat religion and superstition with education
    and improving living standards and equality.

    The better your life is, and the better you are educated, the less religious you are likely to be.

    Build a fair, just, equal, prosperous, safe, secular, and well educated society and religion and superstition
    largely go away on their own. The psychological crutch they provide is no-longer wanted or needed.

    And the bonus is that building such a society benefits everyone, religious or not, and all but the most
    fanatical fringe believers can be convinced [or are already] to help pursue such a society and not fight
    against it.

    Because when you argue against a "fair, just, equal, prosperous, safe, secular, and well educated society"
    you are automatically, and rightly, labelled as the enemy by any and all right thinking people.
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    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Apart from the fact that that is almost certainly not possible, it is most certainly unethical.

    It's also unnecessary, you can quite successfully combat religion and superstition with education
    and improving living standards and equality.

    The better your life is, and the better you are educated, the less religious you are likely to be.

    Build ...[text shortened]...
    you are automatically, and rightly, labelled as the enemy by any and all right thinking people.
    This is all true, very true. The only problem is with outfits like Isis or Boko Haram, they don't allow western education and in fact kill the boy children who are in western schools and kidnap the girls to be enslaved wives. In cases like that, I would have ZERO compunction against using such a virus.
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    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Apart from the fact that that is almost certainly not possible, it is most certainly unethical.

    It's also unnecessary, you can quite successfully combat religion and superstition with education
    and improving living standards and equality.

    The better your life is, and the better you are educated, the less religious you are likely to be.

    Build ...[text shortened]...
    you are automatically, and rightly, labelled as the enemy by any and all right thinking people.
    The problem is that atheist will never be able to build such a society. 😏
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The problem is that atheist will never be able to build such a society. 😏
    on a slightly different note no roman catholic or Jew has ever been Prime minister of the UK. That is not to say they were all religious.
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