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    This is related to the thread on whether atheists answer questions.
    I have often noticed that certain topics or questions result in avoidance by theists and one reason given by them is that they are afraid that atheists are trying to trap them. Does the same ever happen with atheists? Do you ever see atheists worrying about getting trapped and thus not answering questions or avoiding certain threads?
    It seems to that if you are confident of your position/beliefs then you shouldn't be afraid of being trapped.
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    24 Jun '15 20:211 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    This is related to the thread on whether atheists answer questions.
    I have often noticed that certain topics or questions result in avoidance by theists and one reason given by them is that they are afraid that atheists are trying to trap them. Does the same ever happen with atheists? Do you ever see atheists worrying about getting trapped and thus not a ...[text shortened]... hat if you are confident of your position/beliefs then you shouldn't be afraid of being trapped.
    And sometimes the theist's supposed "fear of being trapped" is just a "fear of being subjected to endless inane questioning periods over semantics". How many decent threads have been ruined by skeptics repeating the same question (regardless of the answer they get) ad nauseum?
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    24 Jun '15 20:53
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    This is related to the thread on whether atheists answer questions.
    I have often noticed that certain topics or questions result in avoidance by theists and one reason given by them is that they are afraid that atheists are trying to trap them. Does the same ever happen with atheists? Do you ever see atheists worrying about getting trapped and thus not a ...[text shortened]... hat if you are confident of your position/beliefs then you shouldn't be afraid of being trapped.
    "Do atheists fear traps?"
    --Twhitehead

    In societies in which atheism's harshly stigmatized, some atheists might fear being 'trapped'
    into openly admitting their atheism. I have noticed that some Americans, for instance,
    take positions that appear to be atheistic in every way but they still prefer to deny that
    they are 'atheists. It may be less socially unacceptable in many American communities
    for a person to describe oneself as a 'non-believer' rather than as an 'atheist'.
    I suspect that an atheist in Saudi Arabia would be less likely to admit being an atheist.
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    24 Jun '15 21:55
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    And sometimes the theist's supposed "fear of being trapped" is just a "fear of being subjected to endless inane questioning periods over semantics". How many decent threads have been ruined by skeptics repeating the same question (regardless of the answer they get) ad nauseum?
    Do atheists have this same fear of endless inane questions?
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    24 Jun '15 23:01
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    And sometimes the theist's supposed "fear of being trapped" is just a "fear of being subjected to endless inane questioning periods over semantics". How many decent threads have been ruined by skeptics repeating the same question (regardless of the answer they get) ad nauseum?
    if you are secure in your faith, you don't mind questions.

    if you don't believe your god is a psychopath who will condemn you to an eternity of torment for questioning obvious gruesome stuff from the bible, you don't mind questions.


    "How many decent threads have been ruined by skeptics repeating the same question (regardless of the answer they get) ad nauseum?"
    none.
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    24 Jun '15 23:11
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    This is related to the thread on whether atheists answer questions.
    I have often noticed that certain topics or questions result in avoidance by theists and one reason given by them is that they are afraid that atheists are trying to trap them. Does the same ever happen with atheists? Do you ever see atheists worrying about getting trapped and thus not a ...[text shortened]... hat if you are confident of your position/beliefs then you shouldn't be afraid of being trapped.
    #1 Atheists can't be trapped. They have an answer for everything. For example; Atheist claim there is no God, as though they know everything there is to know, like God does.

    #2 Theists only avoid questions when they know there's a trap, even though atheists don't realize they're laying one.

    😀
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    24 Jun '15 23:32
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    And sometimes the theist's supposed "fear of being trapped" is just a "fear of being subjected to endless inane questioning periods over semantics". How many decent threads have been ruined by skeptics repeating the same question (regardless of the answer they get) ad nauseum?
    By "inane" questions, I take it you are actually referring to "inconvenient" questions, or questions that probe or highlight the inconsistency, contradictions, incoherence, and sometimes the sheer nonsense of the claims and comments they address.
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    25 Jun '15 00:18
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    "Do atheists fear traps?"
    --Twhitehead

    In societies in which atheism's harshly stigmatized, some atheists might fear being 'trapped'
    into openly admitting their atheism. I have noticed that some Americans, for instance,
    take positions that appear to be atheistic in every way but they still prefer to deny that
    they are 'atheists. It may be less so ...[text shortened]... ist'.
    I suspect that an atheist in Saudi Arabia would be less likely to admit being an atheist.
    That's why the term "agnostic" has become so popular. It's for atheists who are afraid of being seen drinking at the same bar as Richard Dawkins.
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    25 Jun '15 00:25
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    This is related to the thread on whether atheists answer questions.
    I have often noticed that certain topics or questions result in avoidance by theists and one reason given by them is that they are afraid that atheists are trying to trap them. Does the same ever happen with atheists? Do you ever see atheists worrying about getting trapped and thus not a ...[text shortened]... hat if you are confident of your position/beliefs then you shouldn't be afraid of being trapped.
    I'll bite.

    Is science to be trusted?
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    25 Jun '15 00:33
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    I'll bite.

    Is science to be trusted?
    In what sense?

    Trusted to be right?

    What are you asking?
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    25 Jun '15 00:441 edit
    Originally posted by rwingett
    That's why the term "agnostic" has become so popular. It's for atheists who are afraid of being seen drinking at the same bar as Richard Dawkins.
    Given Richard Dawkins's reputation for misogyny, many female atheists would prefer not to sit next
    to him at a bar. I am an atheist, but Richard Dawkins does not represent me as one.
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    25 Jun '15 07:18
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    How many decent threads have been ruined by skeptics repeating the same question (regardless of the answer they get) ad nauseum?
    None.

    The reason these threads go on and on is the very reason they are of interest. The level of avoidance, evasion or blatant obfuscation by some Chrisitans here in response to on topic direct questions about thier beliefs is astonishing.
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    25 Jun '15 09:18
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    How many decent threads have been ruined by skeptics repeating the same question (regardless of the answer they get) ad nauseum?
    I don't know. Can you give an example of such a thread?
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    25 Jun '15 09:20
    Originally posted by josephw
    #1 Atheists can't be trapped.
    Good to know. Why does the same not apply to theists?

    #2 Theists only avoid questions when they know there's a trap, even though atheists don't realize they're laying one.
    Why are there traps for theists and not atheists? What is different?
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    25 Jun '15 09:26
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    I'll bite.

    Is science to be trusted?
    I assume you mean that to be a trap for atheists? Why is science associated with atheism?
    I would say that science is to be trusted - with a proper understanding of what science actually is. Scientists are not to be trusted - and the scientific method specifically states that scientists are not to be trusted. Scientific findings are only to be trusted when they are confirmed. Proper scientific method requires that a scientific finding be treated with utmost scepticism and tested in every possible way. Once tested, it is given trust, but only as far as is warranted by the evidence and the testing. I don't get in an aeroplane because it was designed by scientists and engineers, I get in it because I know how many fly and how few crash. But given a choice between science and any other method of discovery, I will pick science every time.
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