Originally posted by zombies
Somebody give me an answer, if a jew rejects the Son, and keeps all the customs of Moses, what happens.
considering what Jesus told Nicodemus, and what all their profets said, and what bout daniels 70 weeks prophecy, where a day is a year, that was executed to perfection down to the last minute, where the priest walks into the holiest of holies in the templ ...[text shortened]... that christ is the son of God, and hence can not be born again. Can he see the kingdom of God.
Well, I think the answer is in the bible. Since Jews no longer offer sacrifices of bulls and goats, then they are not cleansed. And furthermore, the sacrifices were once a year, what if one died before the annual sacrifice?
And what about the verse in Romans "all have sinned and fall short..."
Now having said that, I have learned that the believers (Jews) in the OT were saved through faith just like we are. That is, they were saved Looking forward to the Messiah, by faith. We are saved looking back on the Messiah, by faith. So the OT believers were saved by faith. But the ones who rejected the Messiah are not saved.
To simplify matters, consider the following verses...
9 Does this blessedness then come upon the circumcised only, or upon the uncircumcised also? For we say that faith was accounted to Abraham for righteousness.
10 How then was it accounted? While he was circumcised, or uncircumcised? Not while circumcised, but while uncircumcised.
11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also,
12 and the father of circumcision to those who not only are of the circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of the faith which our father Abraham had while still uncircumcised.
13 For the promise that he would be the heir of the world was not to Abraham or to his seed through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
14 For if those who are of the law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise made of no effect,
15 because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression.
16 Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all
Hope this helps...