23 Dec 07
Originally posted by Red NightI think this is a case of coitus interruptus rather than masturbation. The problem with Onan was that he violated the Levirite law of not ensuring the continuation of the family legacy. Perhaps Visteds ca n help me on this but I'm sure the passage is not about masturbation. There are too many people walking the face of the earth.
Probably not. Onanism was a sin. More likely he had a wife (Mary Magdalene?) and maybe a mistress (Mary Magdalene?)
OR
He was an Essene and took a vow of chastity.
Either way it is unlikely that he masturbated.
23 Dec 07
Originally posted by Red NightBy the sounds of it not just a Jew then...
Onan spilled his seed upon the ground and God struck him dead.
(BTW, I'm not saying it is a sin just that a jew of the 1st century would have believed it a sin.)
God killed someone for masturbation? It reminds me a bit of Pulp Fiction, when they're talking about Marcello throwing someone out a window for touching his wife's feet...
A bit over the top maybe?
23 Dec 07
Originally posted by shavixmirEspecially from an omnibenevolent God who knew he'd do it and had the power to stop it!
By the sounds of it not just a Jew then...
God killed someone for masturbation? It reminds me a bit of Pulp Fiction, when they're talking about Marcello throwing someone out a window for touching his wife's feet...
A bit over the top maybe?
23 Dec 07
Matthew 5:27
27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[e] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
It is sin and he is sinless. If Jesus, God incarnate, can spend forty days in the desert without eating, I'm sure sexual temptation wasn't very hard for him to overcome.
24 Dec 07
Originally posted by freightdog37Do you have any suggestions for say a 14 year old boy?
Matthew 5:27
27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[e] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
It is sin and he is sinless. If Jesus, God incarnate, can spend forty days in the desert without eating, I'm sure sexual temptation wasn't very hard for him to overcome.
24 Dec 07
Originally posted by freightdog37This is actually one of the best verses to show just how absurd the bible's moral code really is. What is the point of Jesus' asking us to go against our very nature? If there is a Creator-God, isn't he the one who designed us to be sexually attracted to others?
Matthew 5:27
27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[e] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
It is sin and he is sinless. If Jesus, God incarnate, can spend forty days in the desert without eating, I'm sure sexual temptation wasn't very hard for him to overcome.