08 Jan 12
Originally posted by avalanchethecatI've lived in a Muslim majority country for quite a long while. Even among devout and pious Muslims I've known, I have never encountered anyone who "hated" the Christian bible. "Sceptical", yes. "Unimpressed", maybe. "Nonplussed", sure. But "hate"? No.
I'd be interested to hear if you do - especially if you could also be so kind as to detail your reasoning.
I do think Dasa may have expressed feelings at the very least adjacent to 'hate' - maybe - in some of his diatribes about 'false religions' and the 'fabricated' bible and the slaughter of animals and the womanizing etc.
08 Jan 12
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatI certainly wouldn't say I like the Bible, but to be honest I don't so much hate the book as much as I strongly dislike what it (and similar books) has manifested. I hate the cruelty, division, hostility, oppression, and general silliness that has been inspired by this human written book.
I'd be interested to hear if you do - especially if you could also be so kind as to detail your reasoning.
Similarly I don't hate gunpowder - but I strongly dislike that it causes people to end up with nasty painful holes in them that lead to their loss of existence.
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08 Jan 12
Originally posted by AgergBut fireworks are fantastic ;-)
I certainly wouldn't say I like the Bible, but to be honest I don't so much hate the book as much as I strongly dislike what it (and similar books) has manifested. I hate the cruelty, division, hostility, oppression, and general silliness that has been inspired by this human written book.
Similarly I don't hate gunpowder - but I strongly dislike that it causes people to end up with nasty painful holes in them that lead to their loss of existence.
08 Jan 12
Originally posted by AgergThe human written book predicted just that ..
I certainly wouldn't say I like the Bible, but to be honest I don't so much hate the book as much as I strongly dislike what it (and similar books) has manifested. I hate the cruelty, division, hostility, oppression, and general silliness that has been inspired by this human written book.
Similarly I don't hate gunpowder - but I strongly dislike that it causes people to end up with nasty painful holes in them that lead to their loss of existence.
Matt 10:34-36 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
08 Jan 12
Originally posted by Rajk999It is unfortunate you find that the fulfillment of such a prediction is so profound 😞
The human written book predicted just that ..
Matt 10:34-36 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
08 Jan 12
Originally posted by Rajk999Yes, I've encountered quite a number of followers of various faiths who pity those who don't share their particular religious outlook. It would seem more apposite to save your pity until such a time as they actually undergo some form of suffering consequent to not sharing your belief system.
I consider myself lucky that I have faith which you might never have. I pity atheists.
08 Jan 12
Originally posted by avalanchethecatThanks for the tip, but I prefer it my way. Plus I have never offered atheists my advice why are you offering yours. Is it because you think you are better off than Christians?
Yes, I've encountered quite a number of followers of various faiths who pity those who don't share their particular religious outlook. It would seem more apposite to save your pity until such a time as they actually undergo some form of suffering consequent to not sharing your belief system.
08 Jan 12
Originally posted by Rajk999Playing the same game:
Thanks for the tip, but I prefer it my way. Plus I have never offered atheists my advice why are you offering yours. Is it because you think you are better off than Christians?
Thanks for [your pity], but I prefer it my way. Plus I have never offered [theists] my [pity] why are you offering yours. Is it because you think you are better off than [non-]Christians?
08 Jan 12
Originally posted by Rajk999I wasn't offering advice. I was suggesting that it is not really appropriate to feel pity towards somebody who is not suffering.
Thanks for the tip, but I prefer it my way. Plus I have never offered atheists my advice why are you offering yours. Is it because you think you are better off than Christians?
08 Jan 12
Originally posted by Rajk999i guess the peacemakers are no longer blessed.
The human written book predicted just that ..
Matt 10:34-36 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
08 Jan 12
Originally posted by SuzianneI'm not sure that it will ever be appropriate to feel pity towards somebody who's not suffering, but I'm thinking that's probably not what you meant.
Yet.
Actually, it's not clear to me that there will ever be an appropriate occasion to feel pity towards non-believers. Don't we all just get deleted from existence come judgement day? Or are you of the hell-believing variety of christian?
08 Jan 12
Originally posted by avalanchethecatNo, you're right. I meant, "not suffering... yet."
I'm not sure that it will ever be appropriate to feel pity towards somebody who's not suffering, but I'm thinking that's probably not what you meant.
Actually, it's not clear to me that there will ever be an appropriate occasion to feel pity towards non-believers. Don't we all just get deleted from existence come judgement day? Or are you of the hell-believing variety of christian?
No, I imagine there will be time between judgement and the casting out that will lead to much "wailing and gnashing of teeth". That seems like suffering to me. But one could also argue that the hate and disgust some atheists feel toward God now is a form of suffering.