06 Dec '05 04:16>
Hi,
The line of thinking behind this thread is relatively simple. There is an apparent paradox in Christianity. God is stated to be both omnipotent and omnipresent, meaning he knows not only what you will do, but he'll also be there when you do it. Now, Christians believe that the soul, if you will, is created uniquely by God. Sooooo, God creates us, in full knowledge of what we will do in the future. If we will sin, and ultimately go to hell, then God created us for that purpose, in full knowledge of the decisions we will make.
Thus, if God is to be omnipotent then surely there can be no self-determination, since our paths are already known by him. All bad decisions can then be vindicated by the excuse that God ordained it. I was reading the thread about Judas Iscariot and I felt I should touch on this subject. Judas was created by God, who had full knowledge he'd betray Christ. Doesn't sound like a very benevelent God who'd create someone to fry in hell.
So, good people, what's it to be? Omnipotent creator who creates people to fry, or self determination by a diety who's not such a know it all.
The line of thinking behind this thread is relatively simple. There is an apparent paradox in Christianity. God is stated to be both omnipotent and omnipresent, meaning he knows not only what you will do, but he'll also be there when you do it. Now, Christians believe that the soul, if you will, is created uniquely by God. Sooooo, God creates us, in full knowledge of what we will do in the future. If we will sin, and ultimately go to hell, then God created us for that purpose, in full knowledge of the decisions we will make.
Thus, if God is to be omnipotent then surely there can be no self-determination, since our paths are already known by him. All bad decisions can then be vindicated by the excuse that God ordained it. I was reading the thread about Judas Iscariot and I felt I should touch on this subject. Judas was created by God, who had full knowledge he'd betray Christ. Doesn't sound like a very benevelent God who'd create someone to fry in hell.
So, good people, what's it to be? Omnipotent creator who creates people to fry, or self determination by a diety who's not such a know it all.