Does satan need permission from God?

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
As you mentioned with "neutral to awesome", there needs to be something relative and "bad" could easily be used as a term to describe "neutral" in the future, as is evidenced by the quickly changing meanings of some words. (Remember When Michael Jackson made "bad" into a "tough" word, like something one should desire? )

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Originally posted by googlefudge
Yeah but we are using words with their current meanings and not with some possible future meaning.

Words are just labels that point to concepts.

You are simply saying that the word might get re-pointed to a different concept.

Which doesn't effect my argument as I was taking about the concepts and not the label for them.

Originally posted by RJHinds
A concept is defined as an idea, thought, or notion formed in the mind.

A concept is not material. Therefore, it must be spiritual, right?

Originally posted by caissad4
A precedent and a direct contradiction. In the OT it is stated that god will not allow evil in his presence. Either Satan is not evil or god is not omnipresent (or both).

Originally posted by empovsun
Maybe Satan isn't evil enough.

Originally posted by caissad4
No. 🙄🙄

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Job 1:8-9 NASB

The Lord said to Satan, "Have you considered My servant Job? For there is no one like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, fearing God and turning away from evil." Then Satan answered the Lord, "Does Job fear God for nothing?

Actually odd but God challenges Satan and not the other way around

Manny