1. Hmmm . . .
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    02 Aug '05 02:271 edit
    Originally posted by David C
    Indeed. Castaneda drew lucid dreaming into his new age shamanism, thereby consigning it to "flakiness".
    Yeah, although Journey to Ixtlan was not too flaky--no flakier than Zen or Taoism--and even Tales of Power was good; after that they got kinda weird... But I remembered "looking for your hand."

    EDIT: Okay, there was weird stuff in those books too, but I took a lot of it allegorically...
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    02 Aug '05 03:19
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    OK, I did that. Nothing happened.

    However, I have been known to go to sleep with a dilemma and I do believe that my unconscious solved the problem for me. I have no way of explaining this "apparition."

    I am hoping that this thread also has some relevence to another thread about the existence of God.
    what you are describing here is called "incubation", a situation in which you find yourself unable to solve a problem and then you go to sleep and you wake up and find that your problem has been solved by way of your unconscious.maybe you had a dream in which you had an epiphany or talked with "a wise old man" who gave you the answer that had up till then eluded you.
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    02 Aug '05 03:28
    Originally posted by vistesd
    Yeah, although Journey to Ixtlan was not too flaky--no flakier than Zen or Taoism--and even Tales of Power was good; after that they got kinda weird... But I remembered "looking for your hand."

    EDIT: Okay, there was weird stuff in those books too, but I took a lot of it allegorically...
    Castaneda learned his teachings from a Yaqui shaman who taught him things no Yaqui ever believed. He took in a lot of people with his hoax, which was never any more than a well-crafted set of fantasy novels.
  4. Hmmm . . .
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    02 Aug '05 03:501 edit
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Castaneda learned his teachings from a Yaqui shaman who taught him things no Yaqui ever believed. He took in a lot of people with his hoax, which was never any more than a well-crafted set of fantasy novels.
    He also seemed to borrow a lot from taoism (e.g., wei wu wei = Don Juan's "not doing" ) and some Jungian stuff as well. I think that allegorical and symbolic content is what made them so compelling; very few fantasy writers seem to do that as well--except maybe for Tolkein, who didn't pass it off as anthropology.
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    02 Aug '05 09:30
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    I believe that it does, though I cannot see it or touch it. I dream so I think I have evidence of it, though no one else can see my dreams. I have certain behaviors that must be defense mechanisms to hide things that I am afraid of, but people tell me that they are just "behaviors" and indicate nothing. What do you think?
    It does, but it's a very woolly concept, a "tumbling ground for whimseys", as William James said. The drawing of further conceptual distinctions is necessary, to prevent lapses into unproductive abstraction.
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