04 Dec '13 21:58>
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"If God exists, all humans would believe so before they die (from 1).
But not all humans believe God exists before they die.
Therefore, God does not exist (from 2 and 3)." -Theodore Drange/JS357
Interesting propositions; all three flawed by the same omission: God has the same self awareness, self determination and volition format He's g ...[text shortened]... uldn't (despite the unimaginable horror of the alternative eternal address). He patiently waits.
What kind of God would coerce relationship with Himself?
The argument has nothing to do with coercion. For one to be in a position to freely accept/reject a relationship with X, one needs to have the belief that X exists in the first place; one needs to take it to be the case that a relationship with X is a live option in the first place. The argument is about this underlying belief that X exists or is a live option in the first place. This implies nothing about coercion: one can hold this belief and yet still be as free as free can be when it comes to the further decision regarding a relationship.