1. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    29 Aug '12 23:55
    Oh no!!
    He looks odd now don't He??

    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/botched-ecce-homo-painting
  2. Standard memberRJHinds
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    01 Sep '12 19:05
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    Oh no!!
    He looks odd now don't He??

    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/botched-ecce-homo-painting
    Yes, he looks odd. 😏
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    01 Sep '12 22:00
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    Oh no!!
    He looks odd now don't He??

    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/botched-ecce-homo-painting
    that's symbolic of what the christians did to jesus's religion.
  4. Standard memberRJHinds
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    01 Sep '12 22:16
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    that's symbolic of what the christians did to jesus's religion.
    You are just trying to distort it even more with your arrogance in thinking you know more than the Christian founding fathers.
  5. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    02 Sep '12 00:34
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    that's symbolic of what the christians did to jesus's religion.
    Good point
  6. Subscribersonhouse
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    03 Sep '12 23:41
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    You are just trying to distort it even more with your arrogance in thinking you know more than the Christian founding fathers.
    FATHER'S? I thought there was only supposed to be one founding father, Jesus.
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    05 Sep '12 00:401 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    FATHER'S? I thought there was only supposed to be one founding father, Jesus.
    If there is one thing Jesus never did that is to found a new religion of any kind whatever, being very much a Jew in a period of considerable fervour in the Jewish faith. The "Founding Fathers" are those who developed a religion around notions of worshipping Jesus, though quite how this was to be understood was subject to a lot of difference until the Council of Nicea established a reasonably firm set of doctrines as a basis for orthodoxy and hence for an organised religion. Those who wish to revert to the original teaching of Jesus are best advised to convert to the Jewish faith, though even that is a fairly amorphous system allowing for quite a lot of diversity.
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    05 Sep '12 17:43
    Originally posted by finnegan
    If there is one thing Jesus never did that is to found a new religion of any kind whatever, being very much a Jew in a period of considerable fervour in the Jewish faith. The "Founding Fathers" are those who developed a religion around notions of worshipping Jesus, though quite how this was to be understood was subject to a lot of difference until the Counc ...[text shortened]... sh faith, though even that is a fairly amorphous system allowing for quite a lot of diversity.
    i think whoever this jesus was (or even if he's an amalgam of different characters), he just wanted to save his people from being slaughtered by the romans. so he preached peace and patience instead of open rebellion.

    history shows us how that turned out. it was a valiant try anyways.
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    05 Sep '12 19:02
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    i think whoever this jesus was (or even if he's an amalgam of different characters), he just wanted to save his people from being slaughtered by the romans. so he preached peace and patience instead of open rebellion.

    history shows us how that turned out. it was a valiant try anyways.
    alas the Jews were destroyed and enslaved by the millions while the Christians who
    heeded his words escaped the onslaught of the Romans, a historical drama of epic
    proportions.
  10. Standard memberRJHinds
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    07 Sep '12 12:164 edits
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    FATHER'S? I thought there was only supposed to be one founding father, Jesus.
    "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace," (Isaiah 9:6).

    When Isaiah 9:6 says that Jesus' name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, etc., it is not saying that Jesus is the eternal Father, but that he has the characteristics of God. In other words, Jesus has all the attributes of God, including eternality.

    P.S. Jesus said He would build His church upon Peter. His own Jewish religion rejected Him. Those that contributed to the founding of His Church are called the founding fathers, whereas Christ Jesus is the head of His church.

    The stone which the builders rejected, that has become the head of the building.
    (Psalm 118:22)
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    07 Sep '12 17:33
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace," (Isaiah 9:6).[/quote]

    When Isaiah 9:6 says that Jesus' name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, etc., it is not saying that Jesus ...[text shortened]... aracteristics of God. In other words, Jesus has all the attributes of God, including eternality.
    isaiah 9;6 doesn't say anything about what jesus' name will be called. he isn't talking talking about jesus. jesus didn't fulfill the very next verse which you neglected to quote:

    isa 9;7
    "Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice From that time forward, even forever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.


    his government is nowhere, there is no increase in peace, there is no one on the throne of david, there is no kingdom, there is no judgment and justice forever from that time forth. the lord of hosts lacks the zeal to perform it.

    sorry. epic fail on all counts. you worship a false messiah.
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