@bunnyknight saidYes. But what about this thread's topic?
Our entire history is riddled with “sociopathic landlords” who worked people to death so they can enrich themselves with wealth and luxury. And while they preached the virtues of hard work and the promise of eternal life, they indulged in sins you can't imagine.
As for people snapping and committing suicide or mass-murder, it should be quite obvious even to a dummy ...[text shortened]... iety and its teachings are very flawed. We have a society that's both physically and mentally sick.
Do you think there is a link between virtue and emotional maturity or not [for example]?
@bunnyknight saidWhat should a "dummy" who finds what you are saying "obvious" do about [1] educating the emotions and [2] teaching virtue to those they are responsible for raising?
As for people snapping and committing suicide or mass-murder, it should be quite obvious even to a dummy that our society and its teachings are very flawed.
@bunnyknight saidWhat "teachings" about emotion do you propose society adopt to tackle people "snapping and committing suicide or mass-murder"?
As for people snapping and committing suicide or mass-murder, it should be quite obvious even to a dummy that our society and its teachings are very flawed. We have a society that's both physically and mentally sick.
@fmf saidIf you care at all about making a better world, the very first step is to acknowledge that all these addictions, suicides and murders are not normal, and we must be doing something wrong. I could give you 1,000,001 examples, but I'd wear out my keypad.
What "teachings" about emotion do you propose society adopt to tackle people "snapping and committing suicide or mass-murder"?
Meanwhile, it would help if you gave at least one real-life example, instead of ambiguous generalizations.
@bunnyknight saidSo you don't want to answer the question because you have too many examples?
I could give you 1,000,001 examples, but I'd wear out my keypad.
@bunnyknight saidWhat would you do - in terms of educating the emotions, and in so far as that relates to teaching virtue - in order to tackle "addictions, suicides and murders"?
If you care at all about making a better world, the very first step is to acknowledge that all these addictions, suicides and murders are not normal, and we must be doing something wrong.
@bunnyknight saidIf you are posting in the way that you are because you find the topic ambiguous, so be it.
Meanwhile, it would help if you gave at least one real-life example, instead of ambiguous generalizations.
@FMF
What I would personally do to tackle "addictions, suicides and murders" is to simply copy a society that had the lowest "addictions, suicides and murders", and then work to improve on that even further.
Now if you truly understand the original broad and ambiguous statement, you should have no trouble coming up with an example. And if you can't apply knowledge and insight to real life, then what's the point?
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@bunnyknight saidThe quote in the OP is by a philosopher. It is about educating the emotions and the contribution it can make to the teaching of virtue.
Now if you truly understand the original broad and ambiguous statement, you should have no trouble coming up with an example. And if you can't apply knowledge and insight to real life, then what's the point?
You have not shown any interest in it thus far.
I am not interested in discussing "addictions, suicides and mass murders" with you. I am not interested in discussing "sociopathic landlords" with you.
Start a thread about "addictions, suicides and mass murders" and see if anyone wants to talk to you about it. Start a thread about "sociopathic landlords" and see if anyone wants to talk to you about them.
@bunnyknight saidWhich society would you "copy"?
@FMF
What I would personally do to tackle "addictions, suicides and murders" is to simply copy a society that had the lowest "addictions, suicides and murders", and then work to improve on that even further.
And what happens in that society in terms of educating the emotions and the teaching of virtue?
@fmf saidIn preparation for my journey to an unfamiliar place, I got caught up in over-thinking every possibility of things that could go wrong and then spent the morning of my evening flight out riddled with anxiety for all my fretting.
"To teach virtue we must educate the emotions, and this means learning 'what to feel' in the various circumstances that prompt them."
~ Roger Scruton [this may be a trilogy of new threads]
Is he right?
I called my daughter who wisely admonished, “Everything you are worrying about is fixable. Mom, among all the emotions you could be having, why don’t you choose excitement and go and have a good time.”
Wise words.
Amongst all the emotions, I can chose.
-Removed-If your parents, teachers or preachers haven't taught you the horrifically bloody history of your nation and the world, then shame on them! Shame, shame, shame! And my moral duty is to point you in the right direction away from deadly traps, that's it. It's not my job nor my desire to convince you or to change you or to re-educate you.
But hey, I'll give you 1 real quick example: Late 19th century USA - millions of immigrants were literally worked to death under working conditions so horrible it would make Satan throw up.