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everyone is born an arminian

everyone is born an arminian

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I would say this is a true statement.

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I would say this is not a true statement.

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I would say it is a statement of indeterminate veracity.

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Originally posted by rwingett
I would say it is a statement of indeterminate veracity.
It's clearly and obviously false. Beyond any shadow of a doubt.

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Arminian |ärˈminēən|
adjective: relating to the doctrines of Jacobus Arminius (Latinized name of Jakob Hermandszoon, 1560–1609), a Dutch Protestant theologian, who rejected the Calvinist doctrine of predestination. His teachings had a considerable influence on Methodism.

noun: an adherent of these doctrines.

Born an Arminian? No one is born believing any doctrine. Not even Arminius was born that way; he became that way later on.

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Originally posted by RBHILL
I would say this is a true statement.
Why don't you tell us why you would say that?

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Originally posted by RBHILL
I would say this is a true statement.
The statement makes a point which I think is valid, if not literally true.

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Originally posted by sonship
The statement makes a point which I think is valid, if not literally true.
Which point would that be? That a peculiarly Protestant doctrine regarding predestination is the natural or default position for newborns?

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Originally posted by moonbus
Arminian |ärˈminēən|
adjective: relating to the doctrines of Jacobus Arminius (Latinized name of Jakob Hermandszoon, 1560–1609), a Dutch Protestant theologian, who rejected the Calvinist doctrine of predestination. His teachings had a considerable influence on Methodism.

noun: an adherent of these doctrines.

[b]Born an Arminian? No one is born[ ...[text shortened]... believing any doctrine. Not even Arminius was born that way; he [i]became that way later on.[/b]
Or he just can't spell....

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Originally posted by sonship
The statement makes a point which I think is valid, if not literally true.
This the sort of doublespeak that you are used to in your religion I suppose.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Or he just can't spell....
Are you suggesting he meant "Armenian" ?

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... then we would all be descendants of Noah. But where Noah's boat landed is not where he came from; Noah was not an Armenian.

Genetic evidence indicates a path out of Africa as being older than any other.

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Originally posted by moonbus
... then we would all be descendants of Noah. But where Noah's boat landed is not where he came from; Noah was not an Armenian.

Genetic evidence indicates a path out of Africa as being older than any other.
You are going to have to decide between Noah and science. You can't have both.

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Originally posted by moonbus
Which point would that be? That a peculiarly Protestant doctrine regarding predestination is the natural or default position for newborns?
No. Guess again.

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