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    18 Jun '05 20:09
    Originally posted by 667joe
    Darwin and genetics make perfect sense.
    If you are narrow minded, yes. Do yourself a favour and read more:

    http://www.massnews.com/2003_Editions/2_Feb/022103_mn_perloff_book.shtml
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    18 Jun '05 20:09
    You said there is no evidence of God. Im just saying that there is evidence to afterlife and God, whether you believe it or not, thats up to you
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    18 Jun '05 20:47
    When you stoop to alluding to a debaters mental situation, you are demonstrating the weakness of your arguments!
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    18 Jun '05 20:50
    Originally posted by flyUnity
    You said there is no evidence of God. Im just saying that there is evidence to afterlife and God, whether you believe it or not, thats up to you
    BIllions of people have died. Has 1 of them ever spoken to youi?
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    18 Jun '05 21:01
    Originally posted by 667joe
    BIllions of people have died. Has 1 of them ever spoken to youi?
    nope, Im not into witchcraft
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    18 Jun '05 21:57
    Originally posted by flyUnity
    Actually there are Experiments and Ovservations that give us a clue about the exisitance of God, Its not totaly a hypothesis. Read the Books called "Beyond Deaths Door" and "Experiments of after life" Probaly can be found in your local library, only to name a few, written by educated scientists. Its hard to prove God by science, although there are studies to show afterlife is a real thing
    Actually creationism hasn't made it to the level of hypothesis..


    "There is a very important characteristic of a scientific theory or hypothesis which differentiates it from, for example, an act of faith: a theory must be ``falsifiable''. This means that there must be some experiment or possible discovery that could prove the theory untrue. For example, Einstein's theory of Relativity made predictions about the results of experiments. These experiments could have produced results that contradicted Einstein, so the theory was (and still is) falsifiable."
    "In contrast, the theory that ``the moon is populated by little green men who can read our minds and will hide whenever anyone on Earth looks for them, and will flee into deep space whenever a spacecraft comes near'' is not falsifiable: these green men are designed so that no one can ever see them. On the other hand, the theory that there are no little green men on the moon is scientific: you can disprove it by catching one. Similar arguments apply to abominable snow-persons, UFOs and the Loch Ness Monster(s?)." ...Jose Wudka


    http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node5.html

    Science is best defined as a careful, disciplined, logical search for knowledge about any and all aspects of the universe, obtained by examination of the best available evidence and always subject to correction and improvement upon discovery of better evidence. What's left is magic. And it doesn't work. -- James Randi




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    18 Jun '05 22:09
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    [b]Evolution is a theory proven by scientific experiments and observations.

    I'd love to hear about these. [/b]
    Whats the point. You are a waste of space. You believe in nothing.
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    18 Jun '05 22:14
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    I suggest that you do a google search using "Near death experiences". That will give you a pretty good idea.
    Yeah right. Google alien abduction and you'll get loads of hits too. Just because some ignorant redneck posts it on the web doesn't make it true.
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    18 Jun '05 22:15
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    So you don't think that a person is dead if he/she has a signed death certificate?
    Does your brain have a death certificate? Or are you just giving it a rest?
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    18 Jun '05 22:24
    The thing that frightens me most about creationism is that it is among a set of irrational beliefs that appear to be becoming embedded into the American psyche and into the political establishment. Is the most powerful nation on earth really going to regress interllectually back into the Mediaeval? It beggers belief
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    18 Jun '05 23:06
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    Actually creationism hasn't made it to the level of hypothesis..


    "There is a very important characteristic of a scientific theory or hypothesis which differentiates it from, for example, an act of faith: a theory must be ``falsifiable''. This means that there must be some experiment or possible discovery that could prove the theory untrue. For e ...[text shortened]... very of better evidence. What's left is magic. And it doesn't work. -- James Randi




    This says it all!
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    EVOLUTION CAPITULATES BEFORE CREATIONISM IN THE SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN!!!

    Okay, We Give Up
    We feel so ashamed
    By The Editors


    There's no easy way to admit this. For years, helpful letter writers told us to stick to science. They pointed out that science and politics don't mix. They said we should be more balanced in our presentation of such issues as creationism, missile defense and global warming. We resisted their advice and pretended not to be stung by the accusations that the magazine should be renamed Unscientific American, or Scientific Unamerican, or even Unscientific Unamerican. But spring is in the air, and all of nature is turning over a new leaf, so there's no better time to say: you were right, and we were wrong.

    In retrospect, this magazine's coverage of so-called evolution has been hideously one-sided. For decades, we published articles in every issue that endorsed the ideas of Charles Darwin and his cronies. True, the theory of common descent through natural selection has been called the unifying concept for all of biology and one of the greatest scientific ideas of all time, but that was no excuse to be fanatics about it. Where were the answering articles presenting the powerful case for scientific creationism? Why were we so unwilling to suggest that dinosaurs lived 6,000 years ago or that a cataclysmic flood carved the Grand Canyon? Blame the scientists. They dazzled us with their fancy fossils, their radiocarbon dating and their tens of thousands of peer-reviewed journal articles. As editors, we had no business being persuaded by mountains of evidence.

    Moreover, we shamefully mistreated the Intelligent Design (ID) theorists by lumping them in with creationists. Creationists believe that God designed all life, and that's a somewhat religious idea. But ID theorists think that at unspecified times some unnamed superpowerful entity designed life, or maybe just some species, or maybe just some of the stuff in cells. That's what makes ID a superior scientific theory: it doesn't get bogged down in details.

    Good journalism values balance above all else. We owe it to our readers to present everybody's ideas equally and not to ignore or discredit theories simply because they lack scientifically credible arguments or facts. Nor should we succumb to the easy mistake of thinking that scientists understand their fields better than, say, U.S. senators or best-selling novelists do. Indeed, if politicians or special-interest groups say things that seem untrue or misleading, our duty as journalists is to quote them without comment or contradiction. To do otherwise would be elitist and therefore wrong. In that spirit, we will end the practice of expressing our own views in this space: an editorial page is no place for opinions.

    Get ready for a new Scientific American. No more discussions of how science should inform policy. If the government commits blindly to building an anti-ICBM defense system that can't work as promised, that will waste tens of billions of taxpayers' dollars and imperil national security, you won't hear about it from us. If studies suggest that the administration's antipollution measures would actually increase the dangerous particulates that people breathe during the next two decades, that's not our concern. No more discussions of how policies affect science either-so what if the budget for the National Science Foundation is slashed? This magazine will be dedicated purely to science, fair and balanced science, and not just the science that scientists say is science. And it will start on April Fools' Day.



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    19 Jun '05 04:02
    Originally posted by flyUnity
    nope, Im not into witchcraft
    Hmm . . . so the Transfiguration was witchcraft?
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