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I want to add that there is nothing wrong with getting married, but equally there is nothing wrong with not getting married with someone you might be involved with.
Originally posted by lauseyAlso interesting. I understand what you're saying.
I would still say absolute morality does not exist. Individual morality does.
This goes by my point that we have evolved instincts which benefit society as a whole. These instincts give us individual morality. Morality that will tell us that rape wouldn't be the right thing to do. I mentioned earlier that dogmatic beliefs and upbringing can overwhelm these ...[text shortened]... said that this is the right thing to do for people who want to be together romantically.
Originally posted by jaywillAgain, showing respect to another when meeting for the first time is a relative moral. How many of the american soldier showed this respect when meeting a vietnameese in the jungle during the war? Was the first thought in the soldier's head: "Wow, a gook! This man looks respectable. I must show him my respect."? No, rather: "Shoot first, ask later."
The problem which many relativists seem to miss is that a great many examples of what they would call relative moral standard, upon closer examination turn out to be something else.
Take for example your sentence with an example:
Morality is "nonetheless relative to our culture and our time".
Okay, to show respect in the US you shake hands upon ...[text shortened]... ways in which it is practiced.
Just one example there. ( I may have loosely quoted you ).
Originally posted by NickstenFor starters, I will be seeing something from a secular evolutionary perspective, which is very different from your creationist viewpoint. Naturally what I post will be from my point of view.
Also interesting. I understand what you're saying.
The other thing here is with absolute individual morality there could be some problems, people can differ, and laws can not exist.
Lets take this example: Two people are married. The man catches his wife with another man.
The wife claims she's not having an affair but just casual sex. She doesn't ha ...[text shortened]... e for more inside and reference on this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_absolutism
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Again, showing respect to another when meeting for the first time is a relative moral. How many of the american soldier showed this respect when meeting a vietnameese in the jungle during the war? Was the first thought in the soldier's head: "Wow, a gook! This man looks respectable. I must show him my respect."? No, rather: "Shoot first, ask later."
So ur own culture, and our own time. Do we behave correctly? Someone might thing we're not.
Originally posted by NordlysIt isn't by Disney. Just the site redirects to a Disney site if you click on their "Exit". 🙂
Disney, me or you? I just thought it was funny that a site about a "proof" of the existence of God turns out to be by Disney, which I associate with fairy tales.
Originally posted by NordlysI would guess you're the spammer - it just shows you're missing the point here and by only posting what you posted and not really giving your opinion in the whole discussion makes you bit of an irritation - like spammers are 😉
Disney, me or you? I just thought it was funny that a site about a "proof" of the existence of God turns out to be by Disney, which I associate with fairy tales.
Originally posted by lauseyIt is quite amazing how different everybody experiences this. I have recently spoken to a view Christians, and it is obvious that everybody that I have spoken to agrees with me. Obviously I will assume most/every evolutionist will agree with your point of view.
For starters, I will be seeing something from a secular evolutionary perspective, which is very different from your creationist viewpoint. Naturally what I post will be from my point of view.
[i]Lets take this example: Two people are married. The man catches his wife with another man.
The wife claims she's not having an affair but just casual sex. She do ...[text shortened]... at benefits society over all, and hence improve our morality on an individual basis.
Originally posted by jaywillYou're saying stuff that I pretty much agree with a lot.
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Again, showing respect to another when meeting for the first time is a relative moral. How many of the american soldier showed this respect when meeting a vietnameese in the jungle during the war? Was the first thought in the soldier's head: "Wow, a gook! This man looks respectable. I must show him my respe ...[text shortened]... kness in living up to moral duty does not prove there is no objective moral standard.