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Spirituality

  1. 06 May '18 13:33
    Why assume that those who believe they are saved by faith will automatically use it as a license to sin?


    Romans 3:28-31

    For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, since there is One God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. Do we, then, nullify the Law by this faith? By no means! Instead, we uphold the Law.…
  2. Subscriber Rajk999
    Enjoying
    06 May '18 15:36
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Why assume that those who believe they are saved by faith will automatically use it as a license to sin?


    Romans 3:28-31

    For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, since there is One God, who will justify the circumcised by fait ...[text shortened]... ame faith. Do we, then, nullify the Law by this faith? By no means! Instead, we uphold the Law.…
    Those who make that assumption are incorrect. Some Christians will use it as a licence to sin and some will not.
  3. 06 May '18 15:57 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Why assume that those who believe they are saved by faith will automatically use it as a license to sin?


    Romans 3:28-31

    For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, since there is One God, who will justify the circumcised by fait ...[text shortened]... ame faith. Do we, then, nullify the Law by this faith? By no means! Instead, we uphold the Law.…
    1 John 3
    4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.

    Many with the belief that they are "saved by faith" seem to believe that it comes with a license to sin. Often they attempt to "justify" the fact that they continue to sin by saying nonsensical things such as:
    You don’t seem to realize that there is a difference between ‘sinning’ and ‘living in sin’.

    Children of God according to you never sin, which means no one is a child of God.

    If you know the good you ought to do and don’t do it to you that is a sin. But that does not necessarily mean you are living in continual disobedience.

    There is a difference between habitual sin and sinning on the odd occasion. Someone who is not a child of God will sin and think nothing of it, their sin doesn't even bother them. Whenever a child of God sins that are convicted by the spirit of God and will ask for forgiveness and they will seek deliverance.

    And if you say that you have no sin you are a liar and the truth of God is not in you.


    The underlying concepts for the above words and similar words are the foundation for their "license". Their foundation is made of sand.
  4. Standard member Romans1009
    TIGER WINS!!
    06 May '18 17:25
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    1 John 3
    4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.

    Many with the belief that they are "saved by faith" seem to believe that it comes with a license to sin. Often they attempt to "justify" the fact that they continue to sin by saying nonsensical things such as:
    [quote]You don’t seem to realize that there is a difference betwee ...[text shortened]... ords and similar words are the foundation for their "license". Their foundation is made of sand.
    No salvation by faith alone Christian who’s posted on this forum in the last three months believes God’s Grace and their salvation is a license to sin.

    Believing that denies the power of God’s Holy Spirit, which indwelt them at the time they accepted Christ if their acceptance of Him was sincere.

    You deny the deity of Christ and apparently don’t believe the Holy Spirit exists either. You reject Christ’s sacrifice and Resurrection and are simply a modern-day Pharisee.
  5. 07 May '18 03:47
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    1 John 3
    4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.

    Many with the belief that they are "saved by faith" seem to believe that it comes with a license to sin. Often they attempt to "justify" the fact that they continue to sin by saying nonsensical things such as:
    [quote]You don’t seem to realize that there is a difference betwee ...[text shortened]... ords and similar words are the foundation for their "license". Their foundation is made of sand.
    If you see having faith in the redemptive work of Christ on the cross as having a foundation of sand, do you believe having faith in your own good works as having a foundation on the rock?
  6. Standard member Romans1009
    TIGER WINS!!
    07 May '18 05:27
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    If you see having faith in the redemptive work of Christ on the cross as having a foundation of sand, do you believe having faith in your own good works as having a foundation on the rock?
    Don’t expect an answer. That question will just be another of literally dozens ToO has ignored because it exposes his false doctrine.
  7. 07 May '18 05:40
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Those who make that assumption are incorrect. Some Christians will use it as a licence to sin and some will not.
    Don't you make that assumption?
  8. Subscriber divegeester On Vacation
    Naughtius Maximus
    07 May '18 05:46
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Those who make that assumption are incorrect. Some Christians will use it as a licence to sin and some will not.
    Why specifically can this behaviour be considered a “licence”?
  9. Subscriber Rajk999
    Enjoying
    07 May '18 08:31
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Don't you make that assumption?
    No
  10. Subscriber Rajk999
    Enjoying
    07 May '18 08:35
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Why specifically can this behaviour be considered a “licence”?
    They can sin and forgiveness is guaranteed - thats a licence to sin
  11. 07 May '18 08:40
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    No
    Second Son:

    Romans 5:20
    Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:


    Rajk: And there is the licence to sin doctrine.


    Sorry but this looks like you are making that assumption.
  12. 07 May '18 08:42
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    They can sin and forgiveness is guaranteed - thats a licence to sin
    And yet another assumption.
  13. Subscriber divegeester On Vacation
    Naughtius Maximus
    07 May '18 09:58
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    They can sin and forgiveness is guaranteed - thats a licence to sin
    But the “licence” exists...this is my point.
  14. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    07 May '18 10:14
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    But the “licence” exists...this is my point.
    Can you clarify what you mean?

    There is no "license to sin".
  15. 07 May '18 10:20
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    But the “licence” exists...this is my point.
    It may exist in your mind if you only take one verse in the Bible out of context and ignore countless other passages of scripture.

    Hebrews 12:1
    Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles.

    How can anyone who believes the entire Bible say they have a 'license to sin'?