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    Do you have faith ? Yes ??

    Mat_17:20 And Jesus said .. If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

    The smallest amount of faith can move a mountain. Can you move a mountain?

    No ? And you are basing your salvation on your weak faith ?? !!

    Good Luck.. 😀
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    22 May '11 20:34
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Do you have faith ? Yes ??

    Mat_17:20 And Jesus said .. If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

    The smallest amount of faith can move a mountain. Can you move a mountain?

    No ? And you are basing your salvation on your weak faith ?? !!

    Good Luck.. 😀
    😕 ...Where are you going with this? Is this just a christian thing or are you addressing everyone?
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    22 May '11 21:05
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    😕 ...Where are you going with this? Is this just a christian thing or are you addressing everyone?
    Im asking Christians if they think they have faith, as defined by Christ.
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    22 May '11 21:16
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Im asking Christians if they think they have faith, as defined by Christ.
    Ok, good luck, I'll just read from the shadows then ...
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    22 May '11 21:211 edit
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Do you have faith ? Yes ??

    Mat_17:20 And Jesus said .. If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

    The smallest amount of faith can move a mountain. Can you move a mountain?

    No ? And you are basing your salvation on your weak faith ?? !!

    Good Luck.. 😀
    You are misunderstanding Jesus' teaching here if you think he's saying you don't have faith unless you can literally move mountains with a word. If this were so, the state of the earth's mountain ranges would've been in a state of constant flux for the last two thousand years. God gives us what we ask for if it is in line with His will. If I tell a mountain to move and it does not, therefore, doesn't indicate a lack of saving faith; rather, it may not be God's will that the mountain move at all.
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    22 May '11 21:45
    Originally posted by epiphinehas
    You are misunderstanding Jesus' teaching here if you think he's saying you don't have faith unless you can literally move mountains with a word. If this were so, the state of the earth's mountain ranges would've been in a state of constant flux for the last two thousand years. God gives us what we ask for if it is in line with His will. If I te ...[text shortened]... e a lack of saving faith; rather, it may not be God's will that the mountain move at all.
    You are correct. Let me put the issue another way. Will Christ when he returns be happy with the state of our faith?
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    22 May '11 21:48
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    You are correct. Let me put the issue another way. Will Christ when he returns be happy with the state of our faith?
    As in, the church in general, or you and I personally?
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    22 May '11 21:50
    Originally posted by epiphinehas
    As in, the church in general, or you and I personally?
    Christianity in general.
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    22 May '11 21:56
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Christianity in general.
    I'd refer you to the first three chapters of the Book of Revelation where the Lamb of God expresses exactly what he thinks of the efforts of his various churches on earth.
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    22 May '11 22:06
    Originally posted by epiphinehas
    I'd refer you to the first three chapters of the Book of Revelation where the Lamb of God expresses exactly what he thinks of the efforts of his various churches on earth.
    Thanks ...

    What do you think of this verse :

    Luke 18:8 ...Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

    Christ seems to be saying that when he returns he wont find faith on earth.

    Im raising all of this becuase many Christians seem to be placing all their trust in their own faith. Im just wondering if this is enough.
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    22 May '11 22:45
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Thanks ...

    What do you think of this verse :

    Luke 18:8 ...Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

    Christ seems to be saying that when he returns he wont find faith on earth.

    Im raising all of this becuase many Christians seem to be placing all their trust in their own faith. Im just wondering if this is enough.
    As John the Baptist said (Matt 3:8), we must bring forth fruits worthy of true repentance. Jesus said what these fruits would be in Matthew 25—namely, giving food to the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, giving hospitality to strangers in need, clothing those without clothing, and visiting those in prison; we can probably add caring for widows and the fatherless (James 1:27) to this list as well.

    These are the fruits which are worthy of true repentance. In other words, their presence authenticates a confession of faith.
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