-Removed-My point is that nothing you say makes any sense, you say that a false Christian is a non Christian, making Jews, Atheists Muslims all false Christians, you say that Jesus is not a True Christian despite following his own teachings, all in all divesgeester its self evident that you haven't got a clue.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Here are the facts, there are true Christians and there are false Christians, Jesus Christ states it numerous times, as does Paul. You can either accept the fact or not. TThe Bible gives certain criteria, two of which i have clearly outlined which determines whether a person is a true Christian or not.
I fully agree that there ARE true Christians and false Christians. That was never disputed.
Also, I quite like your identification of the two important criteria, in fact, I think they are spot on.
What I DO take exception to, is that you claim that JWs have the exclusive right to say that you are complying with those two criteria, a fact which is demonstrably false. I can show you many, many groups which either comply fully, or at least claim to comply - just as you do.
My contribution is not disingenuous as you have slanderously stated, these are Biblically established principles, i did not author them i merely cited them. That you cannot bring yourself to address their import and instead focus on attempting to attack me personally rather than the argument i have made is quite frankly an indication of the weakness of your stance and quite dishonest in itself.
Again, you have either not read my post, or do not understand it. I fully AGREE with your "Biblically established principles". I merely said that you are not the only ones complying, and because of that attitude, you are not complying with the first one yourself!
what i have stated is that its theoretically possible, although i have no knowledge of anyone else and have called three times for anyone to produce evidence.
I humbly submit myself as evidence.
If that is not honesty then clearly you have little understanding of the term. So your silly slanderous remarks notwithstanding i challenge you to actually address the content,
I believe I have done so.
admit that there are false Christians and true Christians as Jesus stated, produce a criteria which one can use to determine a true Christian and produce evidence of anyone who adheres to those principles. Lets see how honest you are?
I have already admitted (and do so again) that there are True Christians and False Christians. I have also stated that it is a subjective judgement. However, on the basis of YOUR OWN two criteria, and the fact that you clearly do NOT comply with the first one set BY YOU, you should not on your own admission include yourself in the category of True Christians.
Originally posted by CalJustI have not claimed that Jehovahs witnesses have the exclusive right to say anything, in fact I did not even mention them. You simply made it up.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
[b]Here are the facts, there are true Christians and there are false Christians, Jesus Christ states it numerous times, as does Paul. You can either accept the fact or not. TThe Bible gives certain criteria, two of which i have clearly outlined which determines whether a person is a true Christian or not. ...[text shortened]... Y YOU, you should not on your own admission include yourself in the category of True Christians.[/b]
If you can show many groups which fully comply with the criteria then do so.
Whether I comply to these principles or not is my affair, not yours.