FMF, Bringer of great joy

@sonship said
@FMF

A lack of imagination. An absence of empathy. And a stark I'd-rather-be-dead way of processing the presence of a dissenter.

Lying now?

I don't think so. I think I am telling the truth.

@sonship said
However I had too look again at that demented photo representing FMF.
And a sadness re-occurred that people could love such self distortion.

Are you talking about my avatar?

It makes you feel "sadness"?

@bigdoggproblem said
Nothing new here. Christians are quite possibly the worst group ever at 'sticking together'.

You lot seem to enjoy telling other Christians that they're doing it wrong, much more than telling off atheists.

And there's a reason for that, too.

For one, I've never known any sub-group of atheists who stick tenaciously to their story of being an atheist while yet showing all the evidence suggesting that they are not, in fact, atheist.

@suzianne said
For one, I've never known any sub-group of atheists who stick tenaciously to their story of being an atheist while yet showing all the evidence suggesting that they are not, in fact, atheist.

Which "sub-group of atheists" are you referring to?

@FMF

I don't think so. I think I am telling the truth.

I think you are at best exaggerating.

I said it was personal to YOU and not to all atheists.
I have engaged dissenter after dissenter after dissenter here for YEARS.

So for you to extrapolate my comment to you personally that I would rather die then have the presence of dissenters is not true. (Putting it politely)

How many posts between me a dissenter Divegeester, Rajk999. RJHinds, Dasa, ThinkOfOne, wolfgang, sonhouse, LemonJello have there been?

LemonJello is an interesting case. His disagreements have been very strong. As strong as his counterpoints have been I don't recall him frequently employing ad homs.

Some of you cannot discuss without them.
Sometimes you get, I said SOMETIMES ... you get blow back in kind.

So you think what you want. I think you are exaggerating.
There is heavy presence of dissenters to what I write here.
I talk with them because I was a dissenter myself once.

@sonship said
I think you are at best exaggerating.

No. You are mistaken.

@sonship said
So for you to extrapolate my comment to you personally that I would rather die then have the presence of dissenters is not true.

I did not say "the presence of dissenters". You've made that up.

@sonship said
@BigDoggProblem

Nothing new here. Christians are quite possibly the worst group ever at 'sticking together'.

The Gospel of Jesus has penetrated nearly every culture on the earth.
Every language, people, tribe, tongue, nation, ethnicity on earth virtually has had some response to the message of Jesus.

You don't have a more universally appealing message then the good news of salvation in Jesus Christ.

You didn't address anything I actually said.

@suzianne said
And there's a reason for that, too.

For one, I've never known any sub-group of atheists who stick tenaciously to their story of being an atheist while yet showing all the evidence suggesting that they are not, in fact, atheist.

Some of the Christians here disqualify other Christians a bit too easily. They fixate on doctrinal differences. They have the same arguments with the same people over and over again.

@caljust said
@sonship

He is tenacious like a bulldog when hunting down inconsistencies.

I guess this thread is your way of demonstrating that his assertion is unfair, and that in fact you are actually full of fun, no?

I think it's called insightful and intelligent.

@sonship said
@FMF

I don't think so. I think I am telling the truth.

I think you are at best exaggerating.

I said it was personal to YOU and not to all atheists.
I have engaged dissenter after dissenter after dissenter here for YEARS.

So for you to extrapolate my comment to you personally that I would rather die then have the presence of dissenters is no ...[text shortened]... sence of dissenters to what I write here.
I talk with them because I was a dissenter myself once.

RJ Hinds and DASA are DISSENTERS?

@fmf said
Which "sub-group of atheists" are you referring to?

Is English your second language? I said, "I've never known any sub-group of atheists who stick tenaciously to their story of being an atheist while yet showing all the evidence suggesting that they are not, in fact, atheist." This means that I don't think they exist because I have never met any. Have you? On the other hand, I have met many Christians who claim to be Christian while engaging in behavior that would show that they are not, in fact, Christian.

Or do you reserve this kind of "I don't get it" reply when you want to disagree yet can't come up with an actual argument against what I've said? You do this a lot. When you want to play devil's advocate yet cannot form an actual argument, you resort to these types of confrontational tricks to deflect attention from what I actually said.

If you just want to black out what I've said without confronting what I actually said, then please, just say so. "Playing dumb" doesn't really fit you.

@bigdoggproblem said
Some of the Christians here disqualify other Christians a bit too easily. They fixate on doctrinal differences. They have the same arguments with the same people over and over again.

There are some branches of Christianity that are too far out of the mainstream to be believable, but I'm not even talking about those. Yes, there are doctrinal differences, and this does cause much conversation, mainly because of what you say, that this causes some to deny those that are different. But I'm talking about people who, quite bluntly, are hypocrites. They talk a good game about the commandments of Jesus, but where the rubber meets the road, they are totally unable to show that they even adhere to their own doctrines. It's like someone who decries lying as the "greatest sin of mankind", and yet cannot prove the truth of anything they say. That kind of hypocrite. The kind who claim to work in soup kitchens in their own hometown while the cameras are running, and then fly to Washington to vote against a bill that would help reduce the burden of poverty nationwide. Doesn't sound very "Christian" to me.

This is what I was saying. I've never met an atheist who said he was an atheist and then act in a way that would cause me to doubt it. However, "Christians" who do this are legion.

-Removed-

It's really the best I can do in this thread that has turned into an exercise in self-service.