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vistesd

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Do the snarling dogs really think
they are not just the same as the other
snarling dogs, despite the differing
words of religion bared in their teeth
as they snarl their same-sounding snarls?

josephw
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Originally posted by vistesd
Do the snarling dogs really think
they are not just the same as the other
snarling dogs, despite the differing
words of religion bared in their teeth
as they snarl their same-sounding snarls?
no

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Originally posted by vistesd
Do the snarling dogs really think
they are not just the same as the other
snarling dogs, despite the differing
words of religion bared in their teeth
as they snarl their same-sounding snarls?
Self--- improperly centered--- is blinded by its own brilliance.

rwingett
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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Self--- improperly centered--- is blinded by its own brilliance.
That's an interesting critique of a non-dualist.

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Originally posted by rwingett
That's an interesting critique of a non-dualist.
Explain...

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Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish.

Albert Einstein

rwingett
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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Explain...
A non-dualist doesn't recognize a 'self' as being a separate entity from the totality of creation. Or at least that's what it seems to me.

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Originally posted by vistesd
Do the snarling dogs really think
they are not just the same as the other
snarling dogs, despite the differing
words of religion bared in their teeth
as they snarl their same-sounding snarls?
Dogs generally work out disagreements
with their fellows with only a few snarls.
Humans natter on incessantly.

josephw
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Originally posted by rwingett
A non-dualist doesn't recognize a 'self' as being a separate entity from the totality of creation. Or at least that's what it seems to me.
There is no escaping the self. We are all entities as distinguishable from one another as we are from the rest of creation. The act of the will in blending self with creation as a means of denying self is not the same thing as denying the self for the purpose of recognizing the supremacy of the Creator.

People are confused.

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Originally posted by josephw
There is no escaping the self. We are all entities as distinguishable from one another as we are from the rest of creation. The act of the will in blending self with creation as a means of denying self is not the same thing as denying the self for the purpose of recognizing the supremacy of the Creator.

People are confused.
Please permit me to put across the Hindu view of “Self” and” God”. This is Advait view or non-dualistic view, which is the most accepted form of Hindu Spiritualism.
“Brahman” is the term for the Ultimate Ground/Ultimate Reality/Ultimate Truth/”God”.
It is the substratum or source of all Manifest Reality. It is the unexpressed Reality. Our" Universe" or “Multiverse” is the expressed Reality.
Although beyond words and thought, “Brahman” is apprehended intuitively by all embodied beings as “Atman” or “Self”. “Self” is the pure ”I” without any predicate attached to it i.e. not as in “I Think or I Do” but simply as ”I”. Like the numerous reflections of the Sun in many water filled bowls, there appear to be many “Selves”. However, the individual “Selves” are nothing but “Brahman”. When an”Atman” realizes that it is nothing but” Brahman” it is stated to be liberated.
In Hindu Spiritualism, there is no “God” as a separate “individual” sitting up in the sky and sort of looking down on us.
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Originally posted by vistesd
Do the snarling dogs really think
they are not just the same as the other
snarling dogs, despite the differing
words of religion bared in their teeth
as they snarl their same-sounding snarls?
Kabir is a Saint who, I believe, had experienced God.His bhajans are very moving and written with such a clarity and conviction that no one who listens to these Bhajans can have any other view about Kabir's Realization of God.
He is the Saint who emphasised the need for regular Bhakti-Upasana. He said that no complex or long duration struggle is required to realize God.He said that only True Devotion is required.
He believed in a God having no attributes except that of permeating the entire Universe.

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