Originally posted by johnygSo do you believe that God can change the character of someone else that you pray for? Would God do that to please you, or for some other reason? If some other reason, would you have any idea what that might be?
That'd work too, I just thought someone should pray for him.
Does it work with total strangers who have no idea you are praying for them?
Is it more effective the more people pray for him (hence your request here)?
Must the people praying also concur with you that the desired goal is a worthy one?
Could we all get together and pray for a change of character for Kim Jong-un?
It seems to me that such a prayer could save millions of lives rather than your rather simple prayer that might save a few people from minor annoyance on a Chess website.
Originally posted by FMFDo let us know when your 'tag-team' trolling gets a bite, will you?
It's a pity that none of "those that pray" have chosen to address twhitehead's second post on this page yet. They are fair questions and the answers of those who believe in the power and functions of prayer would be interesting to read.
I'll pass.
Originally posted by SuzianneIf anyone is willing to address twhitehead's reasonable questions you will be able to read it here. There will surely be no need for me to let you know that someone has posted?
Do let us know when your 'tag-team' trolling gets a bite, will you?
I'll pass.
Originally posted by SuzianneOf course you will. You have to. Its a catch 22 for you.
I'll pass.
If you claim that prayer is efficacious, then that would contradict your belief that the existence of God can not be proven. At best, you must believe that prayer is only efficacious when either nobody is watching, or only up to the point that it is indistinguishable from coincidence predicted by random chance. Whenever God answers a prayer according to your beliefs, he must unanswer someone else's prayer (that would have come true without his interference) just to keep the statistics such that prayer answering remains undetectable, thus maintaining the all important need for faith without reason.