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    @mchill saidIf someone is about to be executed with a gun, forgiving the executioner is not going to "benefit" the guy with the bullet in his skull.
    Gosh, I totally forgot about this daily scenario.
    My premise is undone.

    “Father forgive them, they know not what they do”

    Oh maybe not undone after all then!
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    18 Nov '22 02:57
    @divegeester said
    Gosh, I totally forgot about this daily scenario.
    My premise is undone.
    Eventually, even the glib shall be forgiven.
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    @divegeester said
    Gosh, I totally forgot about this daily scenario.
    My premise is undone.

    “Father forgive them, they now not what they do”

    Oh maybe not undone after all then!
    By "now" could you have meant "know"?

    And what about this "Father" business?

    The Father might spurt, but it's the Mother who does most of the work.

    Human men need to stop treating women as gestation appliances.
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    18 Nov '22 04:53
    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    But in the above post you wrote:

    "when I apologized to someone about something (not sure who or what -- we might need to check the text record about that) "


    Does your lack of memory about the disparaging remarks you made about another poster's family, mean you lack a conscience in this regard?
    Pretty sure it's your frustration about your failed attempts to control other people that lies at the root of your anger issues.

    My Ouija board says, "oh yes, that's right and how" -- what does yours say?
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    18 Nov '22 07:54
    @kevin-eleven said
    Pretty sure it's your frustration about your failed attempts to control other people that lies at the root of your anger issues.

    My Ouija board says, "oh yes, that's right and how" -- what does yours say?
    Control yourself Kevin.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Control yourself Kevin.
    Buzz off, you overheated Vapour.
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    @divegeester said
    By the same principle that holding a grudge harms the holder.

    The burden in both cases, is held by the offended, the disgruntled person in the scenario.

    Therefore to forgive even without that forgiveness being requested, will always benefit the forgiver.

    Thoughts?
    Very sensible line of thought.

    If one harbours a grudge it often eats at the person who won't forgive to their own detriment maybe loss of sleep etc subject to the severity of the problem.
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    19 Nov '22 12:41
    @medullah said
    If one harbours a grudge it often eats at the person who won't forgive to their own detriment maybe loss of sleep etc subject to the severity of the problem.
    I think "often" is an operative word here.
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    @fmf said
    I think "often" is an operative word here.
    I think it's possible to forgive someone, yet not trust them still. That's just being smart and avoiding risk, while letting go of bitterness.
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    @bigdogg said
    I think it's possible to forgive someone, yet not trust them still. That's just being smart and avoiding risk, while letting go of bitterness.
    Sounds good.
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