Originally posted by chaney3Every time I see a divegeester thread Elvis pops into my mind and starts signing Hound dog, 'divegeester you ain't nuthin but a hound dog, crying all the time! - True story.
Why don't you give him a break?
He is SO much more interested in helping Christians than you have ever shown Dive.
What have you done?
The answer is....nothing!!!
Originally posted by wolfgang59No, it's just a view.
That is a very narrow view of plagiarism.
You can plagiarise someone's ideas without directly quoting them;
it is intellectual theft.
You think re-writing the Harry Potter books would be legal without permission?
divegeester, in the OP, didn't provide any other information about the alleged plagiarism, except to say that his opinion is that sonship did it.
It's all just bs.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSonship provides value and teaching.
Every time I see a divegeester thread Elvis pops into my mind and starts signing Hound dog, 'divegeester you ain't nuthin but a hound dog, crying all the time! - True story.
Dive provides nothing.
I have never seen Dive prove his Christianity, just complain, like his pal FMF.
Sonship is the opposite, he cares.
You all are making me feel self conscious.
I don't want you to see me. I want you all to see Jesus, to see Jesus, to see Jesus.
You all have an opportunity to be a part of something too great. We can bring back the Lord Jesus to this earth.
If you don't want to get saved for yourself, get saved to be a part of this corporate bride wooing back the Lord Jesus.
He wants to come back. But He has to have a corporate counterpart wooing Him. God will not act unilaterally without a critical mass of lovers and seekers echoing His desire.
This revelation did not come from an old Christian country. God went to China, to a virgin area where Christianity was not corrupted as it is in the West. There God raised up some servants who said in essence -
"Thankyou, thankyou Western world for bringing us the Gospel of Jesus. But God is really the God of the whole earth. He is not the God of the West. And the blood supply of the Body of Christ can flow from the East to the West just as well as it flows from Western missionaries to the land o China."
These Christian servants received fresh light, recovered truth that has long be buried under the degradation of Christianity. He is moving on. God is moving on. He did not stop the recovery with Martin Luther.
To hear Luther in those days after a thousand years of darkness and the locking up of the Bible was like seeing lightening on a clear day. Today it is the same God. And He is still speaking to free the saints who will listen. He is the same today. And He is moving on towards His coming back.
What NONSENSE is this? That is that I am trying to establish sonship as some original source of truth. My joy and reward is that after I write something someone dusts off his Bible and decides - " I think I will go to see what is in there after all."
If I influence one reader to dust off their Bible and read with a heart turned to God, I am overjoyed in my prayers for you.
And to get into the big picture, the overall picture, a tremendous help is the ministry of Watchman Nee and Witness Lee, these two men from China to whom God gave fresh light.
You know TWO witnesses or servants of God is significant.
The Lord's recovery -
http://www.lordsrecovery.org/
Originally posted by sonshipKeep up the good work sonship.
You all are making me feel self conscious.
I don't want you to see me. I want you all to see [b] Jesus, to see Jesus, to see Jesus.
You all have an opportunity to be a part of something too great. We can bring back the Lord Jesus to this earth.
If you don't want to get saved for yourself, get saved to be a part of this corporat ...[text shortened]... gnificant.
The Lord's recovery -
http://www.lordsrecovery.org/ [/b]
Dive is jealous because he is keenly aware that he himself provides Nothing to help his fellow Christian.
I see through Dive in the same way I see through FMF. They both provide nothing, and contribute nothing.
Originally posted by sonshipMy advice to you is:
What NONSENSE is this? That is that I am trying to establish sonship as some original source of truth. My joy and reward is that after I write something someone dusts off his Bible and decides - " I think I will go to see what is in there after all."
[1] Don't treat this facility as if it were your personal blog filled with monologues and regurgitation of material you like which sometimes make you seem like a spammer..
[2] Simply post links to the material you parrot (and often bristle when asked questions about), and then
[3] Enter into genuine debates and discussions (which is what this forum was created for) with the non-Christians and Christians who populate it where you contribute your personal ideas and responses, referring to the links you provide as and when necessary. I would wholeheartedly welcome your personal interactions here on a range of real life topics if they were steeped in your Christian life in action, your Christian ideas being applied, rather than enormous tracts of doctrine and scriptural analysis.
[4] If you really cannot help yourself from regurgitating these large swathes of text that are undiluted Christian doctrine that are clearly 'preaching to the choir', think about sharing that with Christians on a Christian web site somewhere.
I think you would reach more people. And I think it would add more value to this debate and discussion forum. Just my penny's worth.
Originally posted by sonshipThis is more likely to happen if you exhibit the real life value and impact on your Christian character and make people want to emulate you or tap into the perspectives, applications, the joy that Jesus instills in you. The most admirable and affecting Christians I have known use their faith as a Biblical prism through which to adjudge what to DO in life, how to INTERACT with others, how to CHANGE things around you, and so on and so forth. You are forever using your Biblical prism to look at your own Biblical prism.
If I influence one reader to dust off their Bible and read with a heart turned to God, I am overjoyed in my prayers for you.
Originally posted by FMFAnd now your words. "This is a debate and discussion board."
My advice to you is:
[1] Don't treat this facility as if it were your personal blog filled with monologues and regurgitation of material you like which sometimes make you seem like a spammer..
[2] Simply post links to the material you parrot (and often bristle when asked questions about), and then
[3] Enter into genuine debates and discussions (which is ...[text shortened]... And I think it would add more value to this debate and discussion forum. Just my penny's worth.
Don't like it? Don't participate. Or do you seriously think people here are beholden to your rules?
Oh, wait, I see now. You don't agree with him, and so you think you can do all you can to diminish his "influence" here. Haven't you filled this forum with similar accusations of others protesting your own "influence-peddling"? Kind of hypocritical, no?
Originally posted by SuzianneFMF is an ex-christian looking to undermine the faith at every opportunity. He no longer believes, and wishes to condemn others that do.
And now your words. "This is a debate and discussion board."
Don't like it? Don't participate. Or do you seriously think people here are beholden to your rules?
Oh, wait, I see now. You don't agree with him, and so you think you can do all you can to diminish his "influence" here. Haven't you filled this forum with similar accusations of others protesting your own "influence-peddling"? Kind of hypocritical, no?
Much like an ex smoker who criticizes smokers for what he once did.