From the non-believer's view...

The theists herein have their pet topics which we find offensive when viewing other theist's belief systems, so let's hear it from that very small group of lack-of-theisms:
What do you consider the single most offensive aspect of the theistic world's belief system?

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
The theists herein have their pet topics which we find offensive when viewing other theist's belief systems, so let's hear it from that very small group of lack-of-theisms:
What do you consider the single most offensive aspect of the theistic world's belief system?

The tendency to invite persecution.

Originally posted by divegeester
The tendency to invite persecution.

Is that directed at me?
What's that supposed to mean?
Do you think I'm asking for persecution?
Why are you signaling me out?

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
What do you consider the single most offensive aspect of the theistic world's belief system?

I can't say I find superstitious people's beliefs "offensive" in and of themselves ~ even quite extreme and prejudiced opinions are, in most cases, harmless and talking points only ~ but when religious beliefs result in actions that have damaging or even dangerous impacts on others, I can certainly be concerned.

For example, last week I was working with some people who are trying to change people's thinking, community by community, regarding male doctors being permitted to help women to give birth, which is regarded by the devout as being haram, or forbidden by God.

This belief - which can be strictly adhered to in conservative Muslim communities - results in deaths when pregnant women or women who have just given birth bleed out and die or babies die in difficult birth situations because a female doctor or midwife (as is often the case) was not available. It's just an example.

I find aspects like this "of the theistic world's belief system" to be very troubling, as do quite a lot of Muslims it should be said: superstition leading to acts that harm others. I'm not sure the word "offensive" fits the bill, though.

Originally posted by FMF
I can't say I find superstitious people's beliefs "offensive" in and of themselves ~ even quite extreme and prejudiced opinions are, in most cases, harmless and talking points only ~ but when religious beliefs result in actions that have damaging or even dangerous impacts on others, I can certainly be concerned.

For example, last week I was working with some ...[text shortened]... ition leading to acts that harm others. I'm not sure the word "offensive" fits the bill, though.

Well, then search your inner man and find the thing you find most offensive about theism.
That was the nature of the post, after all.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Well, then search your inner man and find the thing you find most offensive about theism.
That was the nature of the post, after all.

I suppose one could say when people defend ~ irrationally, as I see it ~ such practices (like the one I mentioned above) or punish "offenders" or try to pass supposedly secular laws that force people with different beliefs to comply with the same faith-based restrictions, while women and babies die, then it can become "offensive".

Originally posted by divegeester
The tendency to invite persecution.

Three thumbs down; clearly pressed some buttons with that statement.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
The theists herein have their pet topics which we find offensive when viewing other theist's belief systems, so let's hear it from that very small group of lack-of-theisms:
What do you consider the single most offensive aspect of the theistic world's belief system?

Can you choose a better word than 'offensive?'

Much obliged.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Can you choose a better word than 'offensive?'

Much obliged.

Ah, yes.
Perhaps the choice of words was a shade offensive.
Distasteful, if you will.
Let's taken another bat to the piñata, shall we?

"What aspect of theism really pisses you off the most?"

Better?

Originally posted by divegeester
Three thumbs down; clearly pressed some buttons with that statement.

Yes.
I believe it was the button which is on the top right corner of your reply which was pushed the most.
Apparently, you suck.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Ah, yes.
Perhaps the choice of words was a shade offensive.
Distasteful, if you will.
Let's taken another bat to the piñata, shall we?

"What aspect of theism really pisses you off the most?"

Better?

🙂 Yes, a little better.

In truth, none of it. I honestly don't begrudge anyone their faith. Life isn't easy, and if someone has found something they believe in that gives them hope and comfort, then I say 'good on them.'

That said, religion can have a damaging effect. I believe, in the wrong hands it can lead people to do unspeakable things. Dangerous is the man who believes he has God in his corner. - It can also have a toxic effect in people suffering from mental health problems.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
🙂 Yes, a little better.

In truth, none of it. I honestly don't begrudge anyone their faith. Life isn't easy, and if someone has found something they believe in that gives them hope and comfort, then I say 'good on them.'

That said, religion can have a damaging effect. I believe, in the wrong hands it can lead people to do unspeakable things. ...[text shortened]... n his corner. - It can also have a toxic effect in people suffering from mental health problems.

Can't the same be said for lack-of-theisms?

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Can't the same be said for lack-of-theisms?

No sir.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
The theists herein have their pet topics which we find offensive when viewing other theist's belief systems, so let's hear it from that very small group of lack-of-theisms:
What do you consider the single most offensive aspect of the theistic world's belief system?

The tendency to re-caste their own opinions and prejudices as God's. The deliberate loss of the ability to distinguish between the two.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
The tendency to re-caste their own opinions and prejudices as God's. The deliberate loss of the ability to distinguish between the two.

Any particular predilection come to mind?