1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    06 Dec '15 21:19
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    What Jesus is saying here is absolutely true, it's not much of an analogy.
    Do you really mean that it is true that Jesus is a hen gathering her chicks under her wings? It sounds more like an analogy to me.
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    06 Dec '15 21:28
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    No. God is telling man that he found the light to be good because everything God does is good. God is not so much deciding if the light is good, he's telling man that the light is good.

    This was what I meant when I said that God didn't cause the Bible to be written for himself, it was written for man.
    God saw that the light was good. God was not telling man that the light was good because man was not even made by God at this time.
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    07 Dec '15 04:42
    Originally posted by gswilm aka Sonship

    The bottom line of my comments for you is that it is nonsense to think God had to create light to find out what it is and decide it was good.
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    Then why does the bible imply that?
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    07 Dec '15 04:45
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    If one creates something for example a piece of art and as the creator you stand back to examine your work and it meets with your satisfaction and you declare that to your mind its good there is no morality involved. You are making an evaluation and attesting to the fact that the piece before you satisfies some criteria not necessarily moral. It ma ...[text shortened]... value just by way of example. Why should God as architect of the universe be any different?

    That's really my point Robbie.
    I am not debating the morality of the light.
    I am asking why god should "stand back to examine his work".

    Why does he need to do that if he is omniscient?
    It does not make sense.
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    07 Dec '15 08:002 edits
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    That's really my point Robbie.
    I am not debating the morality of the light.
    I am asking why god should "stand back to examine his work".

    Why does he need to do that if he is omniscient?
    It does not make sense.
    I don't see why his omniscience should exclude his ability to make evaluations on his creative works after all if you know something is good and you declare that its good what is the problem?
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    07 Dec '15 11:211 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    God saw that the light was good. God was not telling man that the light was good because man was not even made by God at this time.
    The Bible was written for man, not God.

    Is 'cause and effect' really that hard for you to understand?
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    07 Dec '15 11:23
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Do you really mean that it is true that Jesus is a hen gathering her chicks under her wings? It sounds more like an analogy to me.
    The quote doesn't say he is a hen. It is a clear comparison.
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    07 Dec '15 14:391 edit
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    The quote doesn't say he is a hen. It is a clear comparison.
    However, you said earlier that it was true.

    You said, "What Jesus is saying here is absolutely true, it's not much of an analogy."
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    07 Dec '15 22:21
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I don't see why his omniscience should exclude his ability to make evaluations on his creative works after all if you know something is good and you declare that its good what is the problem?
    If omniscient surely you cannot make a judgement on
    what you do ... because you already know.
    You know everything!
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    07 Dec '15 23:13
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    If omniscient surely you cannot make a judgement on
    what you do ... because you already know.
    You know everything!
    For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil.

    (Ecclesiastes 12:14 NASB)

    Apparently, God will judge everything regardless if He is omniscient or not.
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    07 Dec '15 23:16
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    However, you said earlier that it was true.

    You said, "What Jesus is saying here is absolutely true, it's not much of an analogy."
    Of course it's true. Are you saying that Jesus was in the habit of lying?

    He's saying that he cares for the people of Jerusalem "like a hen would". He saved his analogies for his parables.
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    07 Dec '15 23:45
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Of course it's true. Are you saying that Jesus was in the habit of lying?

    He's saying that he cares for the people of Jerusalem "like a hen would". He saved his analogies for his parables.
    analogies

    comparison between two things, typically on the basis of their structure and for the purpose of explanation or clarification.

    See a dictionary.
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