13 Dec 06
Ok, imagine an atheist has died and found out that there really is a God, a Heaven and a Hell. Other than never believing in or worshiping God the atheist has led a good life. He/she has never killed or harmed another person, is charitable and kind and has dedicated his/her life to helping others.
Would that person get into Heaven?
If the answer is yes what is the point in someone spending their life worshiping God if you can get into Heaven anyway, even if they don´t believe it exists?
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13 Dec 06
Originally posted by nige22..... or you can flip that on its head and ponder the devout Christian that dies and comes before his ancestors and they inform him that there is no god and since he was such a pussy in life he's not getting into Valhalla either.
Ok, imagine an atheist has died and found out that there really is a God, a Heaven and a Hell. Other than never believing in or worshiping God the atheist has led a good life. He/she has never killed or harmed another person, is charitable and kind and has dedicated his/her life to helping others.
Would that person get into Heaven?
If the answer is yes ...[text shortened]... eir life worshiping God if you can get into Heaven anyway, even if they don´t believe it exists?
13 Dec 06
Originally posted by nige22apparently the Christian answer is NO because:
Ok, imagine an atheist has died and found out that there really is a God, a Heaven and a Hell. Other than never believing in or worshiping God the atheist has led a good life. He/she has never killed or harmed another person, is charitable and kind and has dedicated his/her life to helping others.
Would that person get into Heaven?
If the answer is yes ...[text shortened]... eir life worshiping God if you can get into Heaven anyway, even if they don´t believe it exists?
1) you are nborn with original sin, and even if you do nothing wrong ever (which would be impossible anyway) you have not been washed clean by having your sins absolved by God/God via Jesus so aren't oure so can't enter heaven
2) you rejected Christ, so you had your chance and blew it. You chose the other side so screw you.
There is some argument that if you never had chance to know Christ then you'd be OK on this point
I'm sure not every Christian will agree with these 2 points, but I've heard them many times from many 'official' sources (CofE, Catholic church etc...)
