@ghost-of-a-duke saidYou cannot just "shun me" like the Amish do.
*Bonus reply: (A one-off).
1. You are not a client.
2. I'm not a counselor.
3. Been here before with you. Got the t-shirt.
4. Not interested.
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@chaney3 saidThe fix is surprisingly simple Chaney:
Can we fix this please?
1. Create a thread apologizing for the abuse you inflicted on people yesterday
2. Stop posting and drinking at the same time
3. Treat your fellow posters here with a basic level of respect
4. Deploy some self-control.
01 Nov 18
@ghost-of-a-duke saidWhen people talk of a "higher power" in AA, they show vast ignorance!!
The fix is surprisingly simple Chaney:
1. Create a thread apologizing for the abuse you inflicted on people yesterday
2. Stop posting and drinking at the same time
3. Treat your fellow posters here with a basic level of respect
4. Deploy some self-control.
It's God!! That was the foundation for AA....God.
Sorry if I lost control, but there is a reason why.
AA is the only time I've seen the reliance on God to answer a specific prayer....to get sober. And it does NOT work.
I am highly passionate about this.
@chaney3 saidYou said that you'd been sober for a year. How'd you do it?
When people talk of a "higher power" in AA, they show vast ignorance!!
It's God!! That was the foundation for AA....God.
Sorry if I lost control, but there is a reason why.
AA is the only time I've seen the reliance on God to answer a specific prayer....to get sober. And it does NOT work.
I am highly passionate about this.
01 Nov 18
@thinkofone saidThat is not the point.
You said that you'd been sober for a year. How'd you do it?
Why would God help with a man's sobriety, yet let a little boy get raped and murdered?
AA is misguided, at best, to expect God's help.
@chaney3 saidWhy would God help with a man's sobriety, yet let a little boy get raped and murdered?
That is not the point.
Why would God help with a man's sobriety, yet let a little boy get raped and murdered?
AA is misguided, at best, to expect God's help.
AA is misguided, at best, to expect God's help.
Earlier I'd agreed that the "God of Gimme" worshiped by many Christians doesn't make any sense. So, yes it was misguided.
That said, AA was founded more than 80 years ago. Times have changed. The 12-step program has since been adapted to work without that belief: Both by members of other organizations and by members of AA itself.
That's the way things work. Someone has an idea. Over time it gets improved.
What's the big deal?
01 Nov 18
@thinkofone saidThe "higher power" concept is fraudulent.
Why would God help with a man's sobriety, yet let a little boy get raped and murdered?
AA is misguided, at best, to expect God's help.
Earlier I'd agreed that the "God of Gimme" worshiped by many Christians doesn't make any sense. So, yes it was misguided.
That said, AA was founded more than 80 years ago. Times have changed. The 12-step program has since be ...[text shortened]... That's the way things work. Someone has an idea. Over time it gets improved.
What's the big deal?
My point is that AA people seriously believe that God will help them, through the 12 steps.
Why will God help them? And let human atrocities prevail?
I disagree.
@chaney3 saidOver the past year the sober chaney3 has shown that he's more than capable of being insightful enough to have understood my previous post and how it relates to what he'd been posting instead of mindlessly repeating himself. Bring that chaney3 back.
The "higher power" concept is fraudulent.
My point is that AA people seriously believe that God will help them, through the 12 steps.
Why will God help them? And let human atrocities prevail?
I disagree.
01 Nov 18
@thinkofone saidYou are wrong.
Why would God help with a man's sobriety, yet let a little boy get raped and murdered?
AA is misguided, at best, to expect God's help.
Earlier I'd agreed that the "God of Gimme" worshiped by many Christians doesn't make any sense. So, yes it was misguided.
That said, AA was founded more than 80 years ago. Times have changed. The 12-step program has since be ...[text shortened]... That's the way things work. Someone has an idea. Over time it gets improved.
What's the big deal?
"Higher power" is fraudulent and was never meant to be in original context.
Stop trying to say AA has evolved, because it was not the intention of its founders to "replace" God.
Today's AA meetings are a joke.