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    17 Feb '06 15:441 edit
    I'm new!

    I've just read through a lot of these forums, and i have only one point to make.

    Whenever the NT talks about Scripture, it's not talking about the NT. When the books and letters of the NT were written, the concept of the NT was centuries away. Everytime "the Scripture" is mentioned in the NT, it's talking about the OT or the Torah.

    Thought that might help someone.
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    17 Feb '06 16:36
    who will it help!! the OT/ NT is the christian bible the jewish have there OT AND MANY MORE the bible is the coolection put together quite a few years ago by the roman catholic church who translated it into latin and so forth . SO who will it help???
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    17 Feb '06 16:51
    Originally posted by stoker
    the jewish have there OT AND MANY MORE
    their, not there

    Jews do not call it the Old Testament. That term assumes Christian theology.
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    17 Feb '06 20:03
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    their, not there

    Jews do not call it the Old Testament. That term assumes Christian theology.
    Which is why i said "or the Torah".

    As for who it will help, i was talking about some people in the forums who were talking about eating Scripture and other things. They were confused. I wasn't saying that it's a revelation that's going to heal the masses.
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    17 Feb '06 20:15
    Originally posted by kiitos
    Which is why i said "or the Torah".
    Not "or the Torah," simply the Torah, unless you intend to privilege Christianity. In that case, as you can see from reading these forums, there are packs of wolves ready to pounce upon you.
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    17 Feb '06 20:191 edit
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Not "or the Torah," simply the Torah, unless you intend to privilege Christianity. In that case, as you can see from reading these forums, there are packs of wolves ready to pounce upon you.
    I'm sorry if you hate Christianity, but books that Jewish people call the Torah, are the same books Christians call the Old Testament. I was taking both into consideration.

    ::edit:: I apologize. The Torah is just the first five books. The "torah" (note the lowercase) is the word used for the entire Hebrew Scriptures.
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    17 Feb '06 20:22
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Not "or the Torah," simply the Torah, unless you intend to privilege Christianity. In that case, as you can see from reading these forums, there are packs of wolves ready to pounce upon you.
    there are packs of wolves ready to pounce upon you.

    Whose bark nonetheless is worse than their bite. They warm up to one, eventually.
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    17 Feb '06 20:26
    Originally posted by Halitose
    [b]there are packs of wolves ready to pounce upon you.

    Whose bark nonetheless is worse than their bite. They warm up to one, eventually.[/b]
    Certainly no blood gets shed in internet chat.
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    17 Feb '06 20:27
    Originally posted by kiitos
    I'm sorry if you hate Christianity,
    Where did you get that idea?
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    17 Feb '06 20:28
    Originally posted by Halitose
    [b]there are packs of wolves ready to pounce upon you.

    Whose bark nonetheless is worse than their bite. They warm up to one, eventually.[/b]
    i love you halitose
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    17 Feb '06 20:30
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Certainly no blood gets shed in internet chat.
    Verbal sparring does get the blood throbbing in ones ears, but it's still a tad shy of being shed.
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    17 Feb '06 20:49
    Originally posted by Rolfey
    i love you halitose
    😉
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    Originally posted by Rolfey
    i love you halitose
    We all do. He is a true gentleman.
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    17 Feb '06 23:32
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Where did you get that idea?
    I could have misunderstood. You just seemed so opposed to me calling the torah the OT. And thought i was "privileging Christianity".
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    17 Feb '06 23:57
    Originally posted by kiitos
    I could have misunderstood. You just seemed so opposed to me calling the torah the OT. And thought i was "privileging Christianity".
    Calling the Torah the OT does privilege Christianity. Saying this does not reflect hatred of Christianity. Even Christians can recognize that Christian lingo is not normative for all people. When you are referring to the sacred texts of the Jewish faith, you should not assume the language of Christianity, otherwise you are guaranteed to distort that about which you speak.
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