1. Standard memberWulebgr
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    17 Feb '06 23:57
    Originally posted by kiitos
    I could have misunderstood. You just seemed so opposed to me calling the torah the OT. And thought i was "privileging Christianity".
    Calling the Torah the OT does privilege Christianity. Saying this does not reflect hatred of Christianity. Even Christians can recognize that Christian lingo is not normative for all people. When you are referring to the sacred texts of the Jewish faith, you should not assume the language of Christianity, otherwise you are guaranteed to distort that about which you speak.
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    18 Feb '06 01:00
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Calling the Torah the OT does privilege Christianity. Saying this does not reflect hatred of Christianity. Even Christians can recognize that Christian lingo is not normative for all people. When you are referring to the sacred texts of the Jewish faith, you should not assume the language of Christianity, otherwise you are guaranteed to distort that about which you speak.
    And i will say once again, that is why i said the torah also. I'm still struggling to understand why i can't call it the OT at all. It's sacred texts of the Jewish faith, true, which is why i called it the torah. However, it is also sacred to Christianity, and in Christianity it is called the Old Testament. I was considering both parties.

    The reason i assumed that you had a problem with Christianity is that you were saying i couldn't refer to it as the Old Testament at all.
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    18 Feb '06 01:20
    Originally posted by kiitos
    And i will say once again, that is why i said the torah also. I'm still struggling to understand why i can't call it the OT at all. It's sacred texts of the Jewish faith, true, which is why i called it the torah. However, it is also sacred to Christianity, and in Christianity it is called the Old Testament. I was considering both parties.

    The reason i ass ...[text shortened]... ith Christianity is that you were saying i couldn't refer to it as the Old Testament at all.
    Jesus referred to the Torah; Christians refer to the Old Testament. This distinction seems to get lost by many people.
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    18 Feb '06 04:45
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Jesus referred to the Torah; Christians refer to the Old Testament. This distinction seems to get lost by many people.
    I fear then that we're never going to be able to understand each other. But then, that is the beauty of internet forums, no?
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    18 Feb '06 04:59
    Originally posted by kiitos
    I fear then that we're never going to be able to understand each other. But then, that is the beauty of internet forums, no?
    no love, no hate, no emotions, just a figment of the imagination, no?
    intelect...yes. praise the name of Jesus. welcome to my brain!
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    18 Feb '06 06:49
    Originally posted by kiitos
    I fear then that we're never going to be able to understand each other. But then, that is the beauty of internet forums, no?
    You understand perfectly.
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    18 Feb '06 09:51
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    You understand perfectly.
    enjoy your box!
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    18 Feb '06 14:14
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    their, not there

    Jews do not call it the Old Testament. That term assumes Christian theology.
    thank you for the corrrection. i admit to speaking from a christian term and given the OT from this but would not try to offend just speak as i know.
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