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    25 Apr '11 20:043 edits
    on channel 4 as I post this: Derren Brown debunks faith healing...don't know how you'd get if not in the UK though (maybe YouTube).
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    25 Apr '11 20:11
    Originally posted by Agerg
    on channel 4 as I post this: Derren Brown debunks faith healing...don't know how you'd get if not in the UK though (maybe YouTube).
    If Derren Brown had read the Bible he would know that the original gifts have ceased
    and were only ever intended to be of a temporary nature.
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    25 Apr '11 20:16
    Originally posted by Agerg
    don't know how you'd get if not in the UK though
    Thank God!
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    25 Apr '11 20:17
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    If Derren Brown had read the Bible he would know that the original gifts have ceased
    and were only ever intended to be of a temporary nature.
    Given that he descibed himself (in his book: "Tricks Of The Mind) as a happy clappy Christian in his youth I assume he's more than familiar with the Bible.
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    It is pathetic how obsessed people are with debunking this or
    that about faith. They would do good in going at their lives and
    let us those who believe and have faith to go our way.

    The so-called free thinkers are not free but imprisoned by some
    weird rage and itchy need to chase faith. Their "religion" is more
    intolerant than religious people.

    Live and let live, I say.
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    25 Apr '11 20:25
    Originally posted by Agerg
    Given that he descibed himself (in his book: "Tricks Of The Mind) as a happy clappy Christian in his youth I assume he's more than familiar with the Bible.
    I wouldn't be too sure about that, Happy Clappy Christians believe that these gifts are
    still operative, infact, they are the worst for becoming filled with spirit and basing their
    faith on pure emotionalism.
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    25 Apr '11 20:431 edit
    Originally posted by Seitse
    It is pathetic how obsessed people are with debunking this or
    that about faith. They would do good in going at their lives and
    let us those who believe and have faith to go our way.

    The so-called free thinkers are not free but imprisoned by some
    weird rage and itchy need to chase faith. Their "religion" is more
    intolerant than religious people.

    Live and let live, I say.
    Religion, and superstition in general is a happy breeding ground for the viruses of society; those ar$eholes and charlatans who will exploit and fleece the gullible for every penny they have.

    The world needs more Derren Brown's and James Randi's ;]
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    25 Apr '11 20:47
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Live and let live, I say.
    Faith healing can kill, though.
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    25 Apr '11 21:00
    Originally posted by Agerg
    Religion, and superstition in general is a happy breeding ground for the viruses of society; those ar$eholes and charlatans who will exploit and fleece the gullible for every penny they have.

    The world needs more Derren Brown's and James Randi's ;]
    Maybe if they are only trying to debunk biblical stories. Trying to prove that there is not a higher power is impossible.
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    25 Apr '11 21:361 edit
    Originally posted by Seitse
    It is pathetic how obsessed people are with debunking this or
    that about faith. They would do good in going at their lives and
    let us those who believe and have faith to go our way.

    The so-called free thinkers are not free but imprisoned by some
    weird rage and itchy need to chase faith. Their "religion" is more
    intolerant than religious people.

    Live and let live, I say.
    Live and let live, I say.

    Why do fundamentalist Christians, such as you and RC, so often use expressions like the above when you do not adhere to them yourselves? Do you not recognize the hypocrisy?

    You recently started a thread on Debates called "Gay couple 'kicked out of London pub for kissing'" where you give your approval for that action. Is "Live and let live" to apply only to fundamentalist Christians?
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    25 Apr '11 21:38
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    [b]Live and let live, I say.

    Why do fundamentalist Christians, such as you and RC, so often use expressions like the above when you do not adhere to them yourselves? Do you not recognize the hypocrisy?

    You recently started a thread on Debates called "Gay couple 'kicked out of London pub for kissing'" where you give your approval for that action. Is "Live and let live" to apply only to fundamentalist Christians?[/b]
    Good observation, rec'd.
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    25 Apr '11 21:55
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    If Derren Brown had read the Bible he would know that the original gifts have ceased
    and were only ever intended to be of a temporary nature.
    What a shmuck; Paul Daniels could tell him a thing or to about reading the Bible before going on stage eh!
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    25 Apr '11 22:07
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    [b]Live and let live, I say.

    Why do fundamentalist Christians, such as you and RC, so often use expressions like the above when you do not adhere to them yourselves? Do you not recognize the hypocrisy?

    You recently started a thread on Debates called "Gay couple 'kicked out of London pub for kissing'" where you give your approval for that action. Is "Live and let live" to apply only to fundamentalist Christians?[/b]
    I am full of contradictions.

    I am happy that you're perfect, though. Enjoy! 🙂
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    25 Apr '11 23:321 edit
    Originally posted by Seitse
    I am full of contradictions.

    I am happy that you're perfect, though. Enjoy! 🙂
    I am full of contradictions.

    I am happy that you're perfect, though. Enjoy! 🙂


    Why do fundamentalist Christians, such as you and RC, so often use expressions like the above? Why not just admit your hypocrisy and take the steps necessary to change it?

    It's as if you believe that saying things such as "I am happy that you're perfect, though" somehow makes your hypocrisy right.

    Have you ever considered that you are "full of contradictions" because your core beliefs are built upon a source (the Bible) that is also "full of contraditions"? That having such incoherency as the foundation of your belief system can only lead to having an incoherent belief system?

    You have built your house on sand.
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    26 Apr '11 02:13
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    [b]I am full of contradictions.

    I am happy that you're perfect, though. Enjoy! 🙂


    Why do fundamentalist Christians, such as you and RC, so often use expressions like the above? Why not just admit your hypocrisy and take the steps necessary to change it?

    It's as if you believe that saying things such as "I am happy that you're perfect, though ...[text shortened]... only lead to having an incoherent belief system?

    You have built your house on sand.[/b]
    The Holy Bible is not full of contradictions. The reason some people,
    like you, think it is full of contridictions is because they understand
    very little of what it says and they don't believe in the Power of God.
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