Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYou think one begins at atheism? Based on what? I think the truth is the opposite, though I think one begins with a knowledge and awareness of God’s existence and not any particular religion.
Small correction sir. One is not 'led' to atheism. One 'begins' at atheism. One is (mis)lead to theism by the constructs of other men.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeCouldn’t agree more. Why you think I (or any believer) would dispute that is beyond me.
A person's character is shown through their actions, 'not' where they sit on a Sunday.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeThat perspective is contingent on there being no God.
Small correction sir. One is not 'led' to atheism. One 'begins' at atheism. One is (mis)lead to theism by the constructs of other men.
The opposite is true as well. One might characterize that conundrum as a paradox, but for it to be a paradox both views would have to be either true or false, and since it is either true that God exist, or it is true that God doesn't exist, it's not a question of which view is false but which is true.
We're at an impasse, for all intents and purposes, because neither of us has the ultimate authority to determine for the other which view is the true one.
I love this debate because our fate is ultimately tied to the truth of that question.
The next step is a discussion of evidence.
...the constructs of other men."
It is true by and large that much of what man holds to be true is a construct of man. But certainly not everything.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeThe "action" of where one sits on Sunday speaks volumes about their values, which is a testimony of their character.
A person's character is shown through their actions, 'not' where they sit on a Sunday.
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Right now I'm sitting at a campfire with my children and grandchildren. A family tradition on Memorial Day weekend. Twenty two of us. Three generations, and counting. 🙂
Originally posted by @secondsonBlimey sir, keep your laptop a safe distance from those flames. 😲
Right now I'm sitting at a campfire with my children and grandchildren. A family tradition on Memorial Day weekend. Twenty two of us. Three generations, and counting. 🙂[/b]
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeBut God’s Word says there is no honest and righteous person.
Does such a God not appeal to you, who 'prefers an honest and righteous atheist to a TV preacher whose every deed is foul, foul, foul?
Explain your thinking.
Originally posted by @rbhillThis is the account of Noah and his family. Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time.
But God’s Word says there is no honest and righteous person.
Genesis 6:9
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeAmen.
A person's character is shown through their actions, 'not' where they sit on a Sunday.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeBlameless "among the people of his time" but not God, not perfect, and still a sinner if he committed just one sin. The word used for "blameless" is also translated as wholehearted, sincere, upright, intact, having integrity...
This is the account of Noah and his family. Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time.
Genesis 6:9