17 Oct 22
@gertrude saidIt's true that the torturer God ideology appears to assert that the God figure in question knows full well, as he creates human beings, he already knows which ones he's going to torture for eternity after they die. It seems to me, morally speaking, to be like the very definition of a farfetched ideology.
either we are or we are not
you can't have it both ways
so I'm in a pickle
no matter what I do
I'm F'd
17 Oct 22
@fmf saidI agree.
It's true that the torturer God ideology appears to assert that the God figure in question knows full well, as he creates human beings, he already knows which ones he's going to torture for eternity after they die. It seems to me, morally speaking, to be like the very definition of a farfetched ideology.
If God creates a human knowing full well that said human will utilize their free will in such a way that only eternal hell can be the outcome, then it seems almost evil to create that human at all.
Unless...... it's possible that we're all wrong, and that God does NOT know the future. That He is in fact unaware, yet hopeful, that a person will live a good life.
17 Oct 22
Hell is not mentioned in the Old Testament. Likely because hell is only a threat now for not believing in Jesus. Since Jesus is said to be the only way to the Father, everyone before the time of Jesus did not have to meet that criteria.
The whole threat of hell, and the obligation to believe in something that happened 2,000 years ago, seems unlikely.
