1. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    12 Apr '05 03:31
    ,,,the universe.
  2. Not Kansas
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    12 Apr '05 04:24
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    ,,,the universe.
    This is spiritual, if the universe is changing, then so is god and we are part of the universe.
  3. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    12 Apr '05 04:43
    Originally posted by KneverKnight
    This is spiritual, if the universe is changing, then so is god and we are part of the universe.
    It does free us from the mumbo jumbo , don't it?
  4. Donationrwingett
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    12 Apr '05 04:49
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    It does free us from the mumbo jumbo , don't it?
    We could be freed from even more mumbo jumbo if the universe was just the universe and nothing more.
  5. Standard memberNemesio
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    12 Apr '05 05:07
    Originally posted by rwingett
    We could be freed from even more mumbo jumbo if the universe was just the universe and nothing more.
    Do you not believe in the instructive power of metaphor?
  6. Not Kansas
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    12 Apr '05 05:14
    Originally posted by rwingett
    We could be freed from even more mumbo jumbo if the universe was just the universe and nothing more.
    Yup, and fish'n'chips are just fish'n'chips too. Everything in its own box, served up fresh.
  7. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    12 Apr '05 07:151 edit
    Originally posted by KneverKnight
    Yup, and fish'n'chips are just fish'n'chips too. Everything in its own box, served up fresh.
    We'll still have jumbo shrimp on the menu.

    edit left out an important word ,,,the "false analogy" made me do it
  8. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    12 Apr '05 07:32
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    We'll still have jumbo shrimp on the menu.

    edit left out an important word ,,,the "false analogy" made me do it
    We're still jumbo shrimp on the menu.

    was what came outta that evil FA , I just don't know why the big U has to keep FA around .

    something about no monopoles maybe ?
  9. Standard memberDarfius
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    12 Apr '05 07:35
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    ,,,the universe.
    So God created Himself? Horrid metaphor, unless of course you are presupposing a straw-God.
  10. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    12 Apr '05 07:45
    Originally posted by Darfius
    So God created Himself? Horrid metaphor, unless of course you are presupposing a straw-God.
    no the big U had no begining , is both the Alpha-bits and the cheeriOmega which as you must know needs no strawberries.
    the big U dont need man to do anu ad-lib creating of a creator.
  11. Meddling with things
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    12 Apr '05 10:08
    Originally posted by Darfius
    So God created Himself? Horrid metaphor, unless of course you are presupposing a straw-God.
    the child is the father of the man perhaps
  12. Felicific Forest
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    12 Apr '05 11:04
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    ,,,the universe.

    ..... is He ? .... not in Christian Faith !
  13. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    12 Apr '05 11:23
    Originally posted by ivanhoe

    ..... is He ? .... not in Christian Faith !
    You mean Christ didn't believe in the big U?
    where did he think he was?
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    12 Apr '05 11:48
    Originally posted by ivanhoe

    ..... is He ? .... not in Christian Faith !
    Good thing staking and burning are frowned upon these days.
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    12 Apr '05 14:202 edits
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    You mean Christ didn't believe in the big U?
    where did he think he was?

    If you equate God with the universe you are dwelling in the realm of animism, not in the realm of the Judeo-Christian faith.

    Animism is a man-invented religion. In fact all religions are, except the Judeo-Christian faith. In fact the Judeo-Christian faith is not a faith in the usual traditional sense. The Judeo-Christian faith is the revelation of the one and only true God to humanity.
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