Originally posted by Grampy Bobby Yes, God is a spirit being and is worshipped in spirit and truth. However, it verges on intellectual dishonesty to ignore the fact that
the revealed member, Christ in hypostatic union (perfect humanity and undiminished deity in one unique person forever) is male.
yes paps when he found himself in the fashion as a human, but this was not the case prior to his descent nor the case after his ascension, for it is not possible for flesh and blood to inherit Gods Kingdom
Originally posted by duecer Had Christ been born a woman, who would have listened to a word she said 2000 years ago. Christ [b]HAD to be born male to be taken seriously.[/b]
Cute, duece, but off the mark. OT prophesied that a male child (as in son) would be born..., etc.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie yes paps when he found himself in the fashion as a human, but this was not the case prior to his descent nor the case after his ascension, for it is not possible for flesh and blood to inherit Gods Kingdom
Perfect humanity and undiminished deity in one person... forever! In some respects the nod to God Easter Sunday crowd tends to make too much
over the resurrection/ascension to the extent that His session is ignored. Deity doesn't sit. Father told Christ's humanity to sit at His right hand.
Edit: His humanity's substitutionary spiritual death propitiated God's integrity (justice/righteousness) and made creature reconciliation possible.
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby Cute, duece, but off the mark. OT prophesied that a male child (as in son) would be born..., etc.
duuh! missed the point entirely did you? A woman messiah would not have even been allowed to speak at the temple, much less wander the countryside as a single woman..cultural context GB. If the messiah were born 33 years ago instead of 2000 years ago, perhaps xe would be female.
Geneis 1: 27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
the word man here is "adam" which means species or mankind, and then the differentiation of male and female as complimentary partners is added. When speaking of Adam the person, the definite article ha is used meaning "the man". here God's word clearly states that mankind, both male and female, were made in "his" image.
Are there even any "shes" to comment on this? I could have predicted what a bunch of males would say. It is one reason why this chauvinistic fantasy will eventually pass away.
Originally posted by duecer duuh! missed the point entirely did you? A woman messiah would not have even been allowed to speak at the temple, much less wander the countryside as a single woman..cultural context GB. If the messiah were born 33 years ago instead of 2000 years ago, perhaps xe would be female.
2000 years before Christ there were female judges and prophetesses, appointed by God. So the Bible was not as male-oriented as you think. Women played a very important role. The mothers of most great prophets had an important teaching role. Mary in particular was responsible for many of the parables and stories told by Christ.
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby Perfect humanity and undiminished deity in one person... forever! In some respects the nod to God Easter Sunday crowd tends to make too much
over the resurrection/ascension to the extent that His session is ignored. Deity doesn't sit. Father told Christ's humanity to sit at His right hand.
Edit: His humanity's substitutionary spiritual dea ...[text shortened]... opitiated God's integrity (justice/righteousness) and made creature reconciliation possible.
His humanity's substitutionary spiritual death propitiated God's integrity (justice/righteousness) and made creature reconciliation possible.
yep it certainly did, the greatest gift in mankind's history!
Originally posted by Rajk999 2000 years before Christ there were female judges and prophetesses, appointed by God. So the Bible was not as male-oriented as you think. Women played a very important role. The mothers of most great prophets had an important teaching role. Mary in particular was responsible for many of the parables and stories told by Christ.
yet she would not have been allowed to walk the countryside as a single woman, nor teach at the temple.
I have a friend who is Jewish and she told me that the original Hebrew word for god was a word which means male and female. I think the word is Shaidai.
Originally posted by daniel58 Christ would have abided by the laws as He did when on Earth, but you are right in one sense because He would've WANTED TO HAVE abided by the laws.
You have to be kidding.
Christ ignored the sabbath... one of the ten commandments
He overturned laws of Moses on divorce
He stopped the stoning of an adulteress as required by law
He ignored social norms by hanging out with prostitutes and drunks
He abided by no law except Love God and Love your neighbour..
Matt 22:40 ..on these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Originally posted by Rajk999 You have to be kidding.
Christ ignored the sabbath... one of the ten commandments
He overturned laws of Moses on divorce
He stopped the stoning of an adulteress as required by law
He ignored social norms by hanging out with prostitutes and drunks
He abided by no law except Love God and Love your neighbour..
Matt 22:40 ..on these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
You are wrong He went to the temple 8 days after He was born as was required by law.
Christ didn't ignore the sabbath as you say, He didn't do any unnecessary work, but the Jews went to far you couldn't eat, you couldn't help your mother if she was dying (but you could help your animal, see how distorted this is?)
Which He replied "... but it was not so from the beginning".
etc. etc.
You see you are missing the point GOD MADE THE LAWS, and if someone went to extreme He came and would fix it, that's one of the reasons He came down here.
'God Is'
10 Jul '09 18:10
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