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    24 Jul '08 18:28
    surley beliveing in god is blind faith?
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    24 Jul '08 21:41
    Originally posted by jackjones
    surley beliveing in god is blind faith?
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    Yes. No one realizes it yet, but the Christian "God" is a myth.
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    25 Jul '08 11:51
    Originally posted by scherzo
    Yes. No one realizes it yet, but the Christian "God" is a myth.
    and you blindly have faith in this
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    25 Jul '08 11:56
    Originally posted by jackjones
    surley beliveing in god is blind faith?
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    yes, believing in god is blind faith. which doesn't necessarily mean we(religious dudes) are wrong.

    it is like having faith in your friend who you borrowed 1 million dollars that he won't screw you over. you don't know if or if not he will screw you. over rational people would have told you are a fool that you borrowed him with so much money without taking some steps of insurance. good natured people(very) would tell you to trust in your friend that he will absolutely surely give your money back. and the people in between will tell you there is no way of knowing until you get your money back.
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    25 Jul '08 13:14
    Originally posted by scherzo
    Yes. No one realizes it yet, but the Christian "God" is a myth.
    leaving your house and going to work is an act of blind faith. You have blind faith that the first person you meet won't punch you in the face. You have blind faith that your company is solvent and they will pay you at the end of the week. As human beings we take it on faith that any number of good or bad things will happen without concrete evidence either way.
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    25 Jul '08 13:334 edits
    Originally posted by duecer
    leaving your house and going to work is an act of blind faith. You have blind faith that the first person you meet won't punch you in the face. You have blind faith that your company is solvent and they will pay you at the end of the week. As human beings we take it on faith that any number of good or bad things will happen without concrete evidence either way.
    These things are not “blind faith”; you can observe that:

    1, most people don’t go around punching people in the face on most of the occasions when they meet another person.

    2, most companies are solvent and they will pay all their employers at the end of the week/month or how ever often they are supposed to pay.

    You cannot be rationally absolutely certain that you will never be punched in the face etc but you can be rationally certain that it is probable that you will not be punched in the face etc on most occasions when you leave to go to work.
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    25 Jul '08 15:28
    Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
    These things are not “blind faith”; you can observe that:

    1, most people don’t go around punching people in the face on most of the occasions when they meet another person.

    2, most companies are solvent and they will pay all their employers at the end of the week/month or how ever often they are supposed to pay.

    You cannot be rationally abs ...[text shortened]... ble that you will not be punched in the face etc on most occasions when you leave to go to work.
    1.yes, but you can't be sure you won't get punched in the face all the same
    2. Enron

    the point is, life is uncertain. there are no hard and fast rules or answers. so what's wrong with a little faith?
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    25 Jul '08 15:57
    Originally posted by duecer
    1.yes, but you can't be sure you won't get punched in the face all the same
    2. Enron

    the point is, life is uncertain. there are no hard and fast rules or answers. so what's wrong with a little faith?
    …1.yes, but you can't be sure you won't get punched in the face all the same …

    That fact was implied by what I said.

    …2. Enron …

    Most companies are not like Enron or about to go bankrupted

    …the point is, life is uncertain. there are no hard and fast rules or answers. …

    Yes, except mathematical proofs as well as boolean logic proofs that have been systematically and thoroughly scrutinised and found to be logically flawless.

    … so what's wrong with a little faith? …

    If you talking here about blind unqualified faith then I would say it is unnecessary. You can except uncertainty and probabilities without blind unqualified faith. Sometimes an unproven assumption that you cannot be certain of is ‘necessary’ because you must have it as a starting point of a scientific analysis without which you cannot do any analysis at all -in which case it is just treated as if it was true for practical convenience until if or when there is evidence against it. But that is not the same as blind unqualified faith in something that is not even an unproven but ‘necessary’ assumption. An example of this is blind unqualified faith is faith in the existence of a “god”.
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    25 Jul '08 18:00
    Originally posted by duecer
    leaving your house and going to work is an act of blind faith. You have blind faith that the first person you meet won't punch you in the face. You have blind faith that your company is solvent and they will pay you at the end of the week. As human beings we take it on faith that any number of good or bad things will happen without concrete evidence either way.
    Well, it would be not to nice for someone's health and legal status if they punched everyone they met in the face, would it? Not to mention their social life? We take that for granted because nobody would be that stupid, even DSR, and because it would hurt the puncher more than the punched.
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    25 Jul '08 21:44
    Originally posted by jackjones
    surley beliveing in god is blind faith?
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    Blind faith is a myth.
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    26 Jul '08 15:38
    Originally posted by josephw
    Blind faith is a myth.
    So is the rest of the world, then.
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