Originally posted by JS357We sometimes call things miracles that are not real miracles, but we know of no natural way to explain them. Miracles come only from God and He is the only one that knows the explanation.
Good replies. Maybe it's all supernatural; it's just that some of it is regular and allows for predictive model building and all that.
But if it's all supernatural, what is it "super" to? (etymology: "above, over, on the top (of), beyond, besides, in addition to," from PIE *uper "over".)
Maybe a so-called miracle just seems "super" to the "natural" becau ...[text shortened]... saying that science is an attempt to rationalize what we see going on.
Thanks.
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoActually some of those things have been explained in terms of other more basic laws.
Seriously , there is no explanation from any quarter in the scientific community to this simple point viz. Why are the rules the way they are ? Why two positively ( as well as two negatively ) electrically charged particles repel each other-- or why two positively electrically charged particles do not attract each other ? Why is there gravitational attrac ...[text shortened]... d why not gravitational repulsion ? Indeed, what is Gravitation exactly ? What is mass exactly ?
My submission is that the laws of the physical universe are not explainable.
I agree, there has to be some brute facts about the universe that have no explanation. This is true of any universe even one with God/gods in it ie there would be brute facts about God that would have no explanation.
Originally posted by JS357Auto pilot, if you think the universe is like an motor okay, but what if it is like
A comment by GF on the primates thread triggers a question that I have for those theists or possibly others who think about such things. The comment concerned deism versus a magic God.
Sometimes people like to say that God set up the laws of nature, and things pretty much run themselves according to them, except when God overrides or suspends one or more of ...[text shortened]... deity, why not have a deity-concept in mind that would be worthy of consideration?
a car that is going somewhere, than a driver is required. God creating the
universe would mean God had a reason for doing so, to get something done and
I imagine that something would require tending like a garden would.
Kelly