Originally posted by stellspalfie
am i correct in saying before the universe was created god existed in a void. so he must exist outside of science, as there was no matter. so does this imply he has magic powers? would a being with infinite power find amusement in the creation of beings designed to worship him? where did gods ego and vanity come from. there is no reason living in a void ...[text shortened]... ill him and replace him with a democratically elected messiah, or at least do community service.
You're assuming much here. Also you are projecting more anthropomorphic ideas on an unkown,ie "God" . (I am always careful to put inverted commas around 'god' with a big "G" )
You cannot speculate that "God" existed in a void or anything else before the big bang, (which is a fact - in our part of the universe anyway ,lol).
Similarly , you cannot project things like "him", "magical powers",etc. onto an unknown.
We have all that we need to understand "God", yet "he" alludes all of us.
I believe we worship or devote ourselves to an unknown "God" for various reasons. The least of which are copying others, like elders or family traditions.
Thats ok for young people, but , as I think I am among the youngest here, we must press beyond the 'red-herrings' and dead-ends of devotion to find the one true dead-end. As co-authored by yourself.
Many questions, simple/similar answers.
Let go of "victim conciousness" (Thats a big one).
Understand that you are asleep in "God's waiting room" , (for those that realize that they are asleep, aye, at best dreaming of this life, already have one eye open).
No normal thinking is going to access "God" .
We must treat our lives, the universe, "God" , and any wholistic type questions like that as koans.
We must understand what our egos are, their function, and that our similarity is mixed with our perfect uniquenesses . That every single one of us is an enigma.
All this and more. Firstly in a scholarly fashion and then in an experiential way.
If my 16 year old daughter can get into spirit of these assertions/questions, then I'm sure most of you can too.